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Apr 02, 2012 13:33 |  #1

This is the first shoot I've done in a while, and with a new camera. I haven't edited the pictures yet, but I would love to hear some critiques. Thanks!


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Apr 02, 2012 18:36 |  #2

You need to work on your exposure technique.


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Apr 02, 2012 18:47 |  #3

Did she pay you for these?


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Apr 02, 2012 20:51 |  #4

A couple of points...

#1...While she looks comfortable and relaxed in the pose, I see room for some lighting around her eyes. A bit too raccoon-ish for my liking. I think a lower perspective might have been better for her pose, too.

#2...In contrast to the first photo, she looks very uncomfortable...possib​ly even hurt or in pain...in this shot. I do like the separation between her and the background. The wide angle lens (21mm) makes her nose look enlarged. By changing to the other end of the zoom (55mm x 1.6 crop factor), her face will be in better proportion. This pose appears to me that someone just pushed her down, then got in her face with a camera, and now she's afraid that she's going to get hit.

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Apr 02, 2012 21:44 |  #5

both photographs look a bit on the dark side, it just might be the monitor I am looking at them with, good start, keep trying different poses and lighting.


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Apr 02, 2012 23:47 |  #6

I dont think the second one is very flattering. I typically like this angle, but it has a masculine feel to it. you can tell from the first image that she is very feminine and cute.


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Apr 03, 2012 06:58 |  #7

In the first photo, her eyes need some light on them.....they are too dark. Some fill flash would've been perfect for that situation. As far as the second photo, I don't really care for the pose....IMO, it makes her look like an actress in a scary movie about to be attacked by some type of monster ;)




  
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Apr 03, 2012 10:28 |  #8

chauncey wrote in post #14198940 (external link)
You need to work on your exposure technique.

Ok. Could you expand on this? Because while this is a critique, it doesn't help me at all.

No, this is my sister so she didn't pay me for these. But again, your comment doesn't help me improve.

About the raccoon eyes, yes, I agree, but I wasn't sure how to get rid of those without a harsh flash. I used the flash on a few poses, but her face was completely washed out/over exposed. If you look in the second picture, you'll notice that her dress is over exposed in a few places, but had I changed the exposure, she would have been too dark herself.

As for the wide angle lens, I was really just trying to get the lowest possible aperture, and since I only have zoom lenses, that's what I was stuck with. Although in that picture, it really doesn't show a shallow depth of field so I'm a bit confused. I will confess, I just bought two new lenses with this camera. (18-55mm and 75-300mm) Prior to this I had a 35mm Rebel with the 35-80mm kit lens, so I am learning a new camera and new lenses and haven't gotten the hang of it yet, but again, I want to improve, hence me posting here.

I appreciate all of your comments, and like I said before, I really am just trying to get better. Thanks.


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Apr 03, 2012 10:32 |  #9

jra wrote in post #14201589 (external link)
In the first photo, her eyes need some light on them.....they are too dark. Some fill flash would've been perfect for that situation. As far as the second photo, I don't really care for the pose....IMO, it makes her look like an actress in a scary movie about to be attacked by some type of monster ;)

Haha, I see what you're saying. I really just like her eyes in that one. But she is going to be an actress, so maybe this is just good practice for her. ;)


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Apr 03, 2012 12:50 |  #10

ChristenGayle wrote in post #14202532 (external link)
Ok. Could you expand on this? Because while this is a critique, it doesn't help me at all.

No, this is my sister so she didn't pay me for these. But again, your comment doesn't help me improve.

About the raccoon eyes, yes, I agree, but I wasn't sure how to get rid of those without a harsh flash. I used the flash on a few poses, but her face was completely washed out/over exposed. If you look in the second picture, you'll notice that her dress is over exposed in a few places, but had I changed the exposure, she would have been too dark herself.

As for the wide angle lens, I was really just trying to get the lowest possible aperture, and since I only have zoom lenses, that's what I was stuck with. Although in that picture, it really doesn't show a shallow depth of field so I'm a bit confused. I will confess, I just bought two new lenses with this camera. (18-55mm and 75-300mm) Prior to this I had a 35mm Rebel with the 35-80mm kit lens, so I am learning a new camera and new lenses and haven't gotten the hang of it yet, but again, I want to improve, hence me posting here.

I appreciate all of your comments, and like I said before, I really am just trying to get better. Thanks.

Since you have the 75-300, try that at the lower range. I've used that very successfully for portraits. Also, the longer the focal length, the shallower DoF you're going to get at the same aperture. For example, recently I took a portrait backlit with sunlight with fill-flash at around 135mm at f/6.3 and the DoF was actually too narrow - sharp from nose to just before the ear - would have liked the ear sharp too. The rest of the picture was great though; exposure, background, etc.

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Apr 03, 2012 13:10 |  #11

lmirante wrote in post #14203370 (external link)
For example, recently I took a portrait backlit with sunlight with fill-flash at around 135mm at f/6.3 and the DoF was actually too narrow - sharp from nose to just before the ear - would have liked the ear sharp too. The rest of the picture was great though; exposure, background, etc.

Thanks for explaining! I would love to see the shot as an example, if you don't mind.


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Apr 03, 2012 13:53 |  #12

Yes, try Imirante's suggestions. Great advice.

Shoot the 75-300 lens at about 75mm. This will move you farther away from the subject and "flatten" her face a bit. You can use a piece of white foam-core board to reflect some sunlight to brighten her eyes and then dial in just a bit of fill flash from the pop-up. With reduced power in the flash, sunlight will be the primary light source and you can get a softer image instead of harsh strobe lighting.


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Apr 03, 2012 14:03 as a reply to  @ ChristenGayle's post |  #13

As you can see, the sun should have been a little more behind - the side of her face is overexposed. But the front is nice because of the fill flash. If the sun were behind, I think it would have been perfect. And her earrings are out of focus.

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Apr 03, 2012 16:10 |  #14

Ok, great, I see. So did you use the SpeedLite for the fill flash? I will have to play around with my flash settings, I didn't see the option to reduce flash power while I was out that day, but I will sit down with the manual today and figure it out.


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Apr 03, 2012 16:26 as a reply to  @ ChristenGayle's post |  #15

I did use the Speedlite. I also double checked and it was shot at 135mm so I was way too far for the on camera flash to have worked. I think if you go into A/V priority the flash is automatically at "fill". Don't quote me on that, though.


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