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Intrigued by film SLRs

 
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Apr 01, 2012 11:32 |  #61

Mk1Racer wrote in post #14190267 (external link)
I understand that. But in the grand scheme of things, the era of AF flim cameras was pretty short. And I remember the eye following focus when it came out. My initial reaction was "Wow, that's cool." Tried using a camera w/ it, and didn't like it. I think the reason that you don't see it on modern DLSR's, is because it's a technology nobody wanted. Focus and re-compose gives much more consistent results.

To me, I thought one of the biggest advances (after interchangeable lenses) in film cameras was TTL metering. After that, it was the program modes in my AE-1P. Never spent much time w/ an AF film camera.

Focus and re-compose doesn't work at large apertures even for static objects.


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Apr 05, 2012 07:40 |  #62

jonneymendoza wrote in post #14181660 (external link)
my canon A-1 has a light meter :)

I used to have loads of trouble with the exposure on my A-1! I used to use Kodachrome 64 and I found the metering too innaccurate. I've got an F-1 which has a semi-spot meter which I found much more accurate! The only probelm with the F-1 is that you can't even get batteries for it - never mind film!




  
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Apr 05, 2012 08:25 |  #63

madseavets wrote in post #14213578 (external link)
I used to have loads of trouble with the exposure on my A-1! I used to use Kodachrome 64 and I found the metering too innaccurate. I've got an F-1 which has a semi-spot meter which I found much more accurate! The only probelm with the F-1 is that you can't even get batteries for it - never mind film!

damm is it?


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Apr 05, 2012 08:45 |  #64

kf095 wrote in post #14190858 (external link)
Focus and re-compose doesn't work at large apertures even for static objects.


How do you figure?


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Apr 05, 2012 08:51 |  #65

jonneymendoza wrote in post #14213739 (external link)
damm is it?

It's a bit academic, seeing as you can't get Kodachrome any more!

The manual exposure (lining up the needles) and selective area metering of the F-1 and FTb means you have to do a lot more thinking but I used to get better exposure than the A-1. The A-1 was fine with negative film on auto but the manual exposure was a bit awkward. I might start using the F-1 for fun.:) (bit like driving a classic car...)




  
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Apr 05, 2012 10:47 |  #66

Well... it's the cheapest way to get into full frame! lol

The problem for me (and I learned on film) is a matter of inconvenience and cost... The inconvenience of scanning the negatives... (But maybe now someone online does a good job of scanning the negatives as they are processed for a good price; I don't know) Not to mention the cost of good film (ektachrome, etc.) And don't forget ISO,,, you can't change it without putting in new film. If I were going to buy a film camera it would probably be a nice compact or rangefinder to just use in bright sun, travel, etc... that I could keep loaded with iso-200 film.


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Apr 05, 2012 11:50 |  #67

I miss the good old days of film. My old EOS Rebel and Elan IIe are still both collecting dust in a closet.


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Apr 05, 2012 12:21 |  #68

jonneymendoza wrote in post #14187245 (external link)
The sound of my canon a-1 is MUCH quieter then my canon 400d mate.

How about with a power winder installed? Chances are nobody was listening to the cloth shutter in his Elan, but rather the large mirror slapping down and the film carrier advancing the next frame.


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Apr 05, 2012 12:36 |  #69

Warbird55 wrote in post #14214824 (external link)
I miss the good old days of film. My old EOS Rebel and Elan IIe are still both collecting dust in a closet.

Use them!!! The Elan IIe is great




  
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Apr 05, 2012 13:01 |  #70

I know, I always get a guilty feeling when I see my trusty old Elan IIe sitting there unused. That camera and I went through alot together!


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Apr 05, 2012 17:03 as a reply to  @ Warbird55's post |  #71

The only probelm with the F-1 is that you can't even get batteries for it - never mind film!

Oh yes you can, look here for an answer:-

http://www.smallbatter​y.company.org.uk/sbc_m​r9_adapter.htm (external link)

Not a cheap solution, but I will be getting one of these for my F1n soon.

John:)


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Apr 07, 2012 05:31 |  #72

j37r wrote in post #14216330 (external link)
Oh yes you can, look here for an answer:-

http://www.smallbatter​y.company.org.uk/sbc_m​r9_adapter.htm (external link)

Not a cheap solution, but I will be getting one of these for my F1n soon.


John:)

I've already got one of those and it works fine. The other problem I've got (with My FTb) is that the light seals have gone gooey. I know it's possible to repalce them (they sell kits on ebay) but I'm worried about wrecking it compeletely!




  
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Apr 07, 2012 21:15 |  #73

Having read this thread and had my interest in film piqued, I bought an A2E on ebay this week after realizing that you can use your EF mount lenses with it, and went out and took some shots with the 70-200mm f/4 L on it today, and also with my 7D at a local duck pond. Four of these shots are from the 7D, four are from the A2E. Both were shot this afternoon and the film was developed and then scanned. Other than resizing the images I did not edit the film scans in any way. I edited the 7D images to get close to the tonality of the film images. I haven't shot film in years, so I didn't have any idea what would happen, but I have to say I was extremely happy with the results.

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Apr 07, 2012 23:33 |  #74

@vorlon1: which ones where shot with the 7D and which with the A2E?

they look pretty sweet to me, i had my first film roll developed last week and was very happy with the results! I was thinking trying to take a macro shot of the actual prints to see the quality (close up)....


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Apr 08, 2012 00:28 |  #75

dhillzy_t2i wrote in post #14228338 (external link)
@vorlon1: which ones where shot with the 7D and which with the A2E?

they look pretty sweet to me, i had my first film roll developed last week and was very happy with the results! I was thinking trying to take a macro shot of the actual prints to see the quality (close up)....

All the ones that have D at th end were shot with the 7D, like, "DucksD6" etc., so 2,3,6, and 7 were taken with the 7D. The ones with no D in the name were shot with the A2E. Does the shop where you had your film developed do scans? If so you can look at them on your computer without having to try and take macros. If you looked at the A2E shots with a 100% crop, they don't look nearly as good as the 7D, but I think that is at least partially a result of the resolution they were scanned at. In any case, I am very pleased, the camera nailed focus on every shot, the exposure was right on, and the colors and detail are really vibrant, and what the H, I was using el cheapo Walgreens film that I had laying around!


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