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Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 Di VC USD Announced!!! Stabilized 24-70!

 
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Apr 05, 2012 11:42 |  #661

arentol wrote in post #14214701 (external link)
Given that this lens and the Canon 24-70 L II are both coming out this month I would just return that lens anyway. In 4 weeks, once we all know more about both these two new 24-70's, you will either want this Tamron new or there will be a glut of used 24-70 L's on the market as people trade up to the II and you can grab a used one in excellent condition for considerably less than $1329.

Thanks for the advice. I'm getting married April 29th and I need the 24-70 for that day. :) That still leaves me 5 days to return the Canon.


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Apr 05, 2012 12:03 |  #662

We still don't know how good it is yet. MTF seems to indicate it is as good as the Canon 24-70mk1. Doesn't seem to be quite as good as the mk2 at the 70mm end.


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Apr 05, 2012 12:23 |  #663

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Can someone summarize the results of the MTF charts?

I ordered the Canon 24-70 yesterday from B&H for $1329. I'm wondering how the Tamron will do, because I have a month to return the Canon should the Tamron be spectacular.

Also keep in mind that you shouldn't compare charts between manufacturers as they all use different processes to make these charts and therefore the results are not at all directly comparable between manufacturers. A third party review site that uses a consistent method will provide more useable information for such comparisons, but even then sample inconsistency means you need to check many such reviews to gather your own overall picture of the situation.


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Apr 05, 2012 12:25 |  #664

Humm, this all seems well and good. The pricing of the Tamron puts in the L league. I recall Sigma tried this strategy with their 70-200 OS and failed. I was hoping for sub $1k price. With the L price, the Tammy now has to have the L quality. I'm hoping this is so. I'm actually very interested in this lens, but a bit put off at the pricing.


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Apr 05, 2012 12:28 as a reply to  @ davidc502's post |  #665

Canon needs to come out with a firmware update to prevent this lens from working with the 5D3 because at $1000 less, with VC, almost the same size, and within 90-95% of the optical quality of the Canon 24-70 II, there are going to be a lot a people switching to the Tamron. This lens can be the equivalent of the D800 to 5D3..ie...cheaper with better spec. Canon better get their act together regarding their recent pricing scheme unless they want to end up like Sony.

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Apr 05, 2012 12:31 |  #666

chantu wrote in post #14215002 (external link)
Humm, this all seems well and good. The pricing of the Tamron puts in the L league. I recall Sigma tried this strategy with their 70-200 OS and failed. I was hoping for sub $1k price. With the L price, the Tammy now has to have the L quality. I'm hoping this is so. I'm actually very interested in this lens, but a bit put off at the pricing.

Why are you put off by the price of the Tamron? It is a new lens with the first 24-70 with image stabilization, improve MTF chart, has weather sealing, and $1000 less than the 24-70 II. What is there not to like. These lens are not cheap to make.


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Apr 05, 2012 12:31 |  #667

$1300 for a Tamron. No thanks.




  
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Apr 05, 2012 12:49 |  #668

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$1300 for a Tamron. No thanks.

Looks like Tamron took a page out of Canon's new pricing policy haha


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Apr 05, 2012 12:54 |  #669

If you are willing to wait 6-12 months, it will likely drop $200 with a rebate. That's pretty typical of Tamron's pricing recently. Just look at the Tamron 60mm macro as an example.

Sigma tried to price near L price recently with 70-200 OS and 105mm Macro last year. That did not go over well and they are all on rebates now. So just be patient.


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Apr 05, 2012 12:56 |  #670

Should be available with a rebate + educational rebate if you can abduct a college student :)

"if" it performs well and is well built (since it does have weather sealing), I don't see anything wrong with paying $1000 for a L-like lens with a 6 year warranty.




  
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Apr 05, 2012 13:00 |  #671

chantu wrote in post #14215002 (external link)
Humm, this all seems well and good. The pricing of the Tamron puts in the L league. I recall Sigma tried this strategy with their 70-200 OS and failed. I was hoping for sub $1k price. With the L price, the Tammy now has to have the L quality. I'm hoping this is so. I'm actually very interested in this lens, but a bit put off at the pricing.

I had the Sigma 70-200 OS for a while before I upgraded to the Canon 70-200 IS II, and the Sigma was better than any other 70-200 f/2.8 lens available other than the Canon IS II. The only failure on the part of that Sigma lens is the unwillingness of most people to recognize how good it really is. Especially on crop cameras where it is basically an IS II for about half the price....

But of course waiting for the price to come down with a rebate as liupublic suggests is probably a good idea for most people. I am sure it will happen for the same reason the Sigma price came down.


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Apr 05, 2012 13:01 |  #672

rayman102 wrote in post #14215033 (external link)
Why are you put off by the price of the Tamron? It is a new lens with the first 24-70 with image stabilization, improve MTF chart, has weather sealing, and $1000 less than the 24-70 II. What is there not to like. These lens are not cheap to make.

A $1000 off seems like lot, but the Mk II pricing is in the stratosphere. I'm looking at the absolute pricing of $1300. That's L pricing and must have L quality to match. If someone is juggling in the mind to buy the Mk I or this Tammy, is the VC gonna win the day? Maybe, but the Canon has the reputation, and Tamron is the new kid on "L" street.


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Apr 05, 2012 13:06 |  #673

Just compared the MTF chart btw Tamron 24-70 VC and Canon 24-70 L.

At 24mm,
Tamron is a bit better in the center of the frame while 2/3 of the frame out is similar.

At 70mm,
Tamron is quite a bit better in the center of the frame while 2/3 of the frame out is a little bit worse.

So looks like Tamron is optimized for center of the frame performance while the edge is closed to older 24-70L. Not a bad design compromised IMO.

At $1300 though, I would wait for reviews and rebate to kick in. No pre-order for me.


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Apr 05, 2012 13:09 |  #674

chantu wrote in post #14215188 (external link)
A $1000 off seems like lot, but the Mk II pricing is in the stratosphere. I'm looking at the absolute pricing of $1300. That's L pricing and must have L quality to match. If someone is juggling in the mind to buy the Mk I or this Tammy, is the VC gonna win the day? Maybe, but the Canon has the reputation, and Tamron is the new kid on "L" street.

If Tamron dropped VC and USD into their 70-200 (with the optics staying the same) and priced it at $1400 I'd buy it right now.

I was less thrilled with the 28-75, but thought the optics were pretty decent. I expect this to be an improvement and will seriously consider the lens. I don't think I'll be doing any early adapting though...


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Apr 05, 2012 13:16 |  #675

I'm honestly shocked by how low they're pricing this. And it's MIJ (not MIC like the 70-300 VC).



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