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Post your best pic with no out-of-camera PP please!

 
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Apr 07, 2012 12:10 |  #16

For no PP conditions, I would consider them:

- with DPP, neutral picture style
- with ACR, neutral camera style

Zero all noise reduction and sharpening.


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Apr 07, 2012 12:44 |  #17

If fiddling with PP is not your game, browse through some of the lens archive threads and look at the first few dozen photos posted right after a lens is released and folks have bought it. Usually there are several people posting jpgs that are "SOOC", attempting to demonstrate the "raw" (pun intended) capability of the lens.

From my experience, learning some basic PP tricks and techniques goes a long way towards making "average" photos into "wow" photos. Yeah, you need the basic image captured correctly, but most images will require some level of adjustment to really make them shine - might be contrast, color boost, brightness adjust, or even just cropping judiciously.

A new lens will just give you more "average" photos at different focal lengths/apertures.

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Apr 07, 2012 12:52 |  #18

Minor update to my suggestion:

Just search the Lens Photo Archive for "SOOC", for example:

https://photography-on-the.net …ghlight=SOOC#po​st14216753

https://photography-on-the.net …ghlight=SOOC#po​st14156999

https://photography-on-the.net …ghlight=SOOC#po​st14049042

There are about 300 results returned for "SOOC", probably others could be found using different terms.

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Apr 07, 2012 13:31 |  #19

Expo67 wrote in post #14225377 (external link)
If someone supplied pictures with the default settings in a JPEG format, it couldn't be any simpler.

So in fact it can be done and once again it's not that complicated. More reasons given as to why not as opposed to just doing it! For God sake, give the lady what she wants!


dude, have you not read anything in this thread???

But hey, maybe somebody with a t2i and nifty fifty will go out and take a pic of their back yard, note the jpeg settings and the settings if they used an image editing program and post it.
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Apr 07, 2012 14:23 |  #20

Expo67 wrote in post #14224683 (external link)
Diane, you are not alone. I'm in the same boat as you. I was going to start a thread with the same theme involving no PP shots. I hope you get many responses.

Doesnt look like it's going happen anytime soon.




  
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Apr 07, 2012 14:43 |  #21

there's nothing to learn at all. it's like comparing dyno horsepower figures from a car in Colorado at 6000 ft and one at sea level. same car will return very very different numbers so what's the point in comparing different cars on top of it?


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Apr 07, 2012 14:48 |  #22

msowsun wrote in post #14224727 (external link)
You already own two of Canon's best lenses for creating sharp vibrant photos. But ALL digital photos need to be processed. This is done in the camera with jpegs, or on your computer with RAW. Point and Shoot cameras do lots of in-camera processing while DSLR's don't.

Since you are new to DSLR's I assume you are shooting only jpegs now. To get the most out of your camera without doing any "Post-Processing" , you can adjust the camera's setting using "Picture Style" settings to a little more "In-Camera Processing".

The Standard default settings are:

Sharpness 3 (0 to 7)
Contrast 0 (- 4 to +4)
Saturation 0 (- 4 to +4)
Color tone 0 (- 4 to +4)

If you only shoot jpeg's, or don't like to do Post processing, it can be very valuable to bump up these settings. Here is a good starting point.

Sharpness 5 (0 to 7)
Contrast +2 (- 4 to +4)
Saturation +2 (- 4 to +4)
Color tone 0 (- 4 to +4)

QUOTED IMAGE

Thank you...I've actually played around w/ this function but I dont have a set default. I will try yours next time.




  
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Apr 07, 2012 21:56 |  #23

All I wanted was to see a picture that was not touched up in PS or LR. Thank you for all your help.




  
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Apr 07, 2012 22:19 |  #24

Rebel_Diane wrote in post #14227877 (external link)
All I wanted was to see a picture that was not touched up in PS or LR. Thank you for all your help.

Sorry if you took offense at our ribbing, but if you hang out here long enough you begin to learn that post processing is every bit as important as what happens before you are ready to press the shutter button.

Check this link to see some before/after shots. That is about as close as we can get to answering your question I believe.

And here is one of mine that is a Before and After.

Before:

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


After:
IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE

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Apr 07, 2012 22:20 |  #25

Rebel_Diane wrote in post #14227877 (external link)
All I wanted was to see a picture that was not touched up in PS or LR. Thank you for all your help.

Yes, we understand that, but the thing is, that isn't going to give you useful information about lens choice, which seems to be your objective. The reason is that skill level and in-camera settings will be much more important to the resulting image than the lens used.

Your question tells us a bit about what you want to achieve, but what you are asking for isn't the way to get there. We could just do as you ask, and let you make bad choices based on faulty assumptions, but we're nicer than that, mostly!




  
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Apr 07, 2012 22:47 |  #26

Rebel_Diane wrote in post #14227877 (external link)
All I wanted was to see a picture that was not touched up in PS or LR. Thank you for all your help.

DPP also touching it from RAW to JPEG1 and not doing it well. I switched to LR and I have much more SOOC - RAW to JPEG1. (Camera WB, Camera Exposure, No Lens correction, No NR and so on).
Canon makes only good hardware and firmware they are not software company at all.
Which is not exclusion for many "made in Japan" great products.


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Apr 08, 2012 00:11 |  #27

Not a great pic, just one I came up with real quick with no PP. Scanned from my film Elan 7 with 50 1.4 - Maybe this will get this thread rolling with actual pics rather than tech talk.

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Apr 08, 2012 00:33 |  #28
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xarqi wrote in post #14227993 (external link)
Yes, we understand that, but the thing is, that isn't going to give you useful information about lens choice, which seems to be your objective. The reason is that skill level and in-camera settings will be much more important to the resulting image than the lens used.

Your question tells us a bit about what you want to achieve, but what you are asking for isn't the way to get there. We could just do as you ask, and let you make bad choices based on faulty assumptions, but we're nicer than that, mostly!

Let her make up her own mind. She doesn`t need you or anyone else lecturing her. If you can`t give her what she wants then why bother posting?




  
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Apr 08, 2012 01:00 as a reply to  @ Expo67's post |  #29

I'm glad to see some people finally posted some pics. Sometimes, POTN can get downright mean. Yes, yes...we all know that the camera processes its images, but y'all knew what the OP was asking...she was asking for pics that weren't post-processed out-of-camera. There's a few things that will bring out the wolves when newbies post, and I guess this is one of them (not recognizing that camera's process images in-camera). Another is when people talk about crop factors, i.e. eFOV versus FL. It allows people who are in-the-know to get up on their pedantic pedestals and condescendingly explain these concepts to newbies. Kind of like the eye-rolling re-directs to stickies ("Uh, I'd recommend you read this sticky before you post...it's been addressed, like, 1000 times here already") Welcome to POTN!


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Apr 08, 2012 01:51 |  #30

NavyShrink wrote in post #14228562 (external link)
I'm glad to see some people finally posted some pics. Sometimes, POTN can get downright mean. Yes, yes...we all know that the camera processes its images, but y'all knew what the OP was asking...she was asking for pics that weren't post-processed out-of-camera. There's a few things that will bring out the wolves when newbies post, and I guess this is one of them (not recognizing that camera's process images in-camera). Another is when people talk about crop factors, i.e. eFOV versus FL. It allows people who are in-the-know to get up on their pedantic pedestals and condescendingly explain these concepts to newbies. Kind of like the eye-rolling re-directs to stickies ("Uh, I'd recommend you read this sticky before you post...it's been addressed, like, 1000 times here already") Welcome to POTN!

I think that most people were just trying to point out that what the OP was requesting would not give her the information she was seeking. With 6 picture styles for jpg which would you show the OP? As someone pointed out comparing a picture shot in landscape with the same one shot in faithful will really give you no useful information about the lens especially in the max size allowed here.

Plus comparing two lenses at say f11 isn't going to help either. There are so many factors - SS, aperture, ISO, picture style, Lighting, photographer expertise and so many more that can change picture quality more than the lens.


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