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Apr 07, 2012 07:15 |  #1

Hi,

I have a 600D and am interested in using a computer to take photos in a wildlife setting.

Is there a way to make it quiet, perhaps by holding up the mirror?

I've been used to triggering a Powershot A620, which is nearly silent and doesn't scare wildlife.

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Apr 08, 2012 02:50 |  #2

Unfortunately, even holding up the mirror won't do much good. I don't use MLU often, but IIRC, the mirror comes back down after every shot, so you still get the noise. Of course, it may help if you flip it up and wait until the subject approaches, then it'll be quieter, but you'll only get 1 shot with the benefit of the reduced sound. The reason your powershot is so silent is because it doesn't have a mirror as I'm sure you've observed. There's not much you can do to silence a DSLR mirror.


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Apr 08, 2012 03:33 |  #3

Sirrith wrote in post #14228882 (external link)
Unfortunately, even holding up the mirror won't do much good. I don't use MLU often, but IIRC, the mirror comes back down after every shot, so you still get the noise. Of course, it may help if you flip it up and wait until the subject approaches, then it'll be quieter, but you'll only get 1 shot with the benefit of the reduced sound. The reason your powershot is so silent is because it doesn't have a mirror as I'm sure you've observed. There's not much you can do to silence a DSLR mirror.

MLU? IIRC?

That's a pity. When I bought the camera I read that the mirror could be held up, and naively thought it changed to 'as a compact'. Never mind, I've learnt.

As it is for many shots controlled form a distance, it will be in a waterproof, soundproof box.

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Apr 08, 2012 12:05 |  #4

Sirrith wrote in post #14228882 (external link)
Unfortunately, even holding up the mirror won't do much good. I don't use MLU often, but IIRC, the mirror comes back down after every shot, so you still get the noise. Of course, it may help if you flip it up and wait until the subject approaches, then it'll be quieter, but you'll only get 1 shot with the benefit of the reduced sound. The reason your powershot is so silent is because it doesn't have a mirror as I'm sure you've observed. There's not much you can do to silence a DSLR mirror.

I don't know about the 600D, but with my 60D, using the mirror lock locks the mirror up untill I manually unlock it. However, the shutter on an SLR is still a lot noisier than a P&S shutter, even without the mirror slap.


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Apr 09, 2012 08:24 |  #5

Preeb wrote in post #14230436 (external link)
I don't know about the 600D, but with my 60D, using the mirror lock locks the mirror up untill I manually unlock it. However, the shutter on an SLR is still a lot noisier than a P&S shutter, even without the mirror slap.

I believe the 60D has silent mode, but the 600D doesn't. It might be possible, with video which is silent, but this isn't ideal, and perhaps Magic lantern, if I dare put it on the camera.

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Apr 09, 2012 13:49 |  #6

camerart wrote in post #14234652 (external link)
I believe the 60D has silent mode, but the 600D doesn't. It might be possible, with video which is silent, but this isn't ideal, and perhaps Magic lantern, if I dare put it on the camera.

Thanks Camerart.

I don't even have it in silent mode. That's another setting. My mirror lock appears to be same as the live view button on the back. I press that and the mirror is locked up until I unlock it. In video mode, that button starts the capture.


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Apr 09, 2012 16:10 |  #7

Using mirror lockup should be significantly quieter, but as mentioned, certainly isn't totally silent. Even the "silent" mode that some cameras have isn't really silent. SLRs certainly aren't a new tool for wildlife photography, though, so I'm guessing there are some avid wildlife photographers out there who have some good techniques to mitigate the noise.




  
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Apr 10, 2012 06:16 |  #8

camerart wrote in post #14228957 (external link)
MLU? IIRC?

mirror lock up, if i remember correctly.

Preeb wrote in post #14230436 (external link)
I don't know about the 600D, but with my 60D, using the mirror lock locks the mirror up untill I manually unlock it. However, the shutter on an SLR is still a lot noisier than a P&S shutter, even without the mirror slap.

With my 450D its like this:
first press shutter button mirror flips up
second press takes the shot, mirror flips back down


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Apr 10, 2012 09:00 |  #9

The more that I think about it, mirror lockup may not be the way to go for wildlife photography afterall. First of all, it really slows you down. Second, the mirror won't stay up for extended periods. After awhile, it will close back down (I believe it's because the CCD eventually starts to overheat). Lastly, you actually end up making more noise, because in order to autofocus, it has to flip the mirror back down. On my 5D, it's not quite as loud as taking a picture, but it's definitely very audible.




  
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Apr 10, 2012 09:57 |  #10

IslandCrow wrote in post #14240931 (external link)
The more that I think about it, mirror lockup may not be the way to go for wildlife photography afterall. First of all, it really slows you down. Second, the mirror won't stay up for extended periods. After awhile, it will close back down (I believe it's because the CCD eventually starts to overheat). Lastly, you actually end up making more noise, because in order to autofocus, it has to flip the mirror back down. On my 5D, it's not quite as loud as taking a picture, but it's definitely very audible.

On the 600D there is live view, and there are programs that can be installed on the camera, that I'm sure can hold the mirror up and be as quiet as possible, but they do have discalimers, that state they could break the camera, and as this is my new pride and joy, I'm not going to risk it.

So I think I had better accept that the camera wil be inside a waterproof and sound proof box, and that's the best I can do.

Thanks, Camerart.




  
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Apr 10, 2012 10:00 |  #11

Sirrith wrote in post #14240415 (external link)
MLU- mirror lock up, if i remember correctly.

With my 450D its like this:
first press shutter button mirror flips up
second press takes the shot, mirror flips back down

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