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Working with Harsh Sunlight

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Apr 08, 2012 06:46 |  #16

the second set is much better than 1st one, obviously the location and flash made such difference.

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Apr 08, 2012 08:32 |  #17

Jon, you have every opportunity to fix the 'shadow' line in bright sun w/ enough wattage of light! What you can't do, is fix the squinting!

With a decent studio strobe and reflector OR efficient modifier near the camera position, you could blast 500 to 1000 w/s of light to balance everything out. Wait till sunset and like many people have said, you will on need a small flash. No matter what direction the sun is coming from, the light will either fill in the shadow and add to the sun OR it will fill in the shadow to balance the sun. All we are talking about is % of light. More direct sun = more flash.

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Apr 08, 2012 08:39 |  #18

chugger93 wrote in post #14227718 (external link)
As you can see the shadow side of our faces kind of throws of this composition for me. Direct flash won't really help, so I'm guessing I would have to illuminate from the left side.

Any ideas on how to tackle these sorts of setups? Should I be tagging along my 36' umbrellas? I hate to do that, because its a park and tons of people around. Probably would think I'm cookoo...

Your first shot is far better than the rest as its not flat. (Although it does have a treetrunk growing out of your head).

All those reasons you stated.. location, background, houses, not looking cookoo.. are relevant.

On axis fill to reduce the shadows is all you need - theres barely any squinting to overcome so you wouldn't really need much more. Bare flash fill would work, if you have enough output - a 5" diffuser or even a 18" softbox would all be beneficial.

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Apr 08, 2012 09:00 |  #19

I don't think I'm ready to buy strobes, as I'm still getting the hang of off camera speedlites. I probably could have brought my triggers, and setup my 430 off to the left somewhere to fill in that side. That never dawned on me.

Good catch on the tree trunk outta my head. I really have to watch for that stuff.

Sometimes it's hard to wait until the right moment around sunset with kids though. I can't always just pick up and leave to get the right kind of light. Sometimes I have to work with what I have at the time of day I have the time in. So with that said, I need to grasp the right techniques to "make it work" as best as possible. Correct in POST for whatever needs it

Thanks again everyone for your comments

Jon | JMBPhotography
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Apr 08, 2012 09:16 |  #20

If you can get an assistant, give this a try:​/watch?v=7ykLKifD1lU (external link)

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