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1DIV + Sigma 50mm or 7D + 85L II + 50L

 
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Apr 09, 2012 10:25 |  #1
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I recently sold my 7D and planning to get a 1DIV. I am kind of confused with these 2 options. I understand that 1DX is just around the corner but I cannot afford that.

Here are my options. I have around $1700 cash now
Keep Sigma 50mm + Sell 85L II + with $1700 cash buy a 1DIV with around 50K clicks

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Buy a 7D + Keep 85L II + Replace Sigma 50mm with 50L with remaining cash

I shoot sports in daylight and indoor volleyball. FPS wise whatever 7D offers is good for me. Anything more from 1DIV is a bonus. I am mostly interested in IQ and low light capabilities of 1DIV over 7D. I am not a pro but both the above options are quite doable for me. The reason why 50L is in picture is because I owned this lens in the past and traded it. I really liked the performance of that lens.

P.S: I have a 5D2 and the lenses in my signature. So I am covered from the FF and lenses side :). My 85L is tack sharp but only selling because 85mm FL is not my cup of tea. I rarely use it.

P.S2: If anybody is looking to trade their 1DIV for my 85LII + cash please let me know. I cannot afford a whole lot on top. Somewhere in $1650 range :D


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Apr 09, 2012 12:09 |  #2

1Dx/s/number and a 50L.


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Apr 09, 2012 12:15 |  #3
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pyrojim wrote in post #14235793 (external link)
1Dx/s/number and a 50L.

I wish :cry: In my case 1D body and 50L are mutually exclusive. I wanted to buy 1ds but after a lot of reading I guess I will be happy with my 5D2 (especially because I will be needing video).

So the only choices are what I mentioned in OP. I know that the ideal choice would be 1DX and 1DIV but I cannot afford those :p


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Apr 09, 2012 12:20 |  #4

Have you thought of the 5D3? Sure doesnt have the FPS like the 1D bodies but at 6 FPS should still be good.


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Tony_Stark wrote in post #14235839 (external link)
Have you thought of the 5D3? Sure doesnt have the FPS like the 1D bodies but at 6 FPS should still be good.

Yeah.. thought about it. But my primary use of this body will be for sports (indoor and outdoor) and want to have a designated sports body. I already have 5D2 which is quite similar to 5D3. I know 5D3 is better but not at double the cost especially for my kind of shooting. When it is around $2500 I will surely replace my 5D2 :D


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Apr 09, 2012 14:25 |  #6
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I think I made my decision. Its option 2. 7D + 85L + 50L :D

1DS3 prices are falling like a rock. They are selling for $2600 range on eBay which is absolutely ridiculous. I reckon the fate of 1DIV will be something similar. I will get a 1DIV next season when I can find one in 1diii range


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Apr 09, 2012 15:26 as a reply to  @ CanonCleGuy's post |  #7

I almost don't think the mkiv will drop like that. It looks like they are keeping this a current body for now and there really isn't that is replacing it unlike the 5dmkiii, even partially the 5dmkii and 1dx compared to the 1ds mkiii. 2700 sounds a like low, but I would bet it will stay in he low 3k range especially for the studio folks who don't need the high ISO.


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Apr 09, 2012 18:24 |  #8

skater911 wrote in post #14236771 (external link)
2700 sounds a like low, but I would bet it will stay in he low 3k range especially for the studio folks who don't need the high ISO.

Why would those "studio folks" want a 1Ds when there is a 5D mk II which has an improved sensor? I really don't think they would need the extra fps and 45 point af.


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Apr 09, 2012 20:04 as a reply to  @ FuturamaJSP's post |  #9

Because it is cleaner at the lower iso's. Not saying the 5d is a slouch and that is why I actually included it in the previous post.


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Apr 09, 2012 20:21 |  #10

really?
http://www.the-digital-picture.com …igital-Camera-Review.aspx (external link)

I've already established that these two bodies have similar resolution and sharpness - at ISO 100. In the color chart comparison, the Canon EOS 5D Mark II shows a small advantage over the 1Ds III in the noise category. In the fabric example (from same shots as the color chart), ISO 400 and 800 appear identical between these two bodies. At ISO 1600 and 3200, the 5D II samples appear sharper - but also appear noisier.


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Apr 09, 2012 21:00 |  #11

What is with the pissing match. My point was about the mkiv in my original post not 1ds mkiii. Relax


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Apr 09, 2012 21:48 |  #12

uh I am relaxed and am not and wasn't arguing with you and I hope you are relaxed too. Well to me it looks like you were talking about the 1ds3

CanonCleGuy wrote in post #14236441 (external link)
1DS3 prices are falling like a rock. They are selling for $2600 range on eBay which is absolutely ridiculous. I reckon the fate of 1DIV will be something similar. I will get a 1DIV next season when I can find one in 1diii range

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I almost don't think the mkiv will drop like that. It looks like they are keeping this a current body for now and there really isn't that is replacing it unlike the 5dmkiii, even partially the 5dmkii and 1dx compared to the 1ds mkiii. 2700 sounds a like low, but I would bet it will stay in he low 3k range especially for the studio folks who don't need the high ISO.

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think there are that many studio shooters who use the 1DIV and most people choose the 1D because of they shoot high ISO not the other way around. Also I thought to most studio photographers resolution is very important and I doubt the 16mpixel 1D4 has higher resolution than the 21mp 5Dmk2 and 1Ds3


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Apr 09, 2012 22:07 |  #13

If your happy with your lens selection, sell the 85, and the 50, and buy the IV.




  
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Apr 09, 2012 22:15 |  #14

I nevEr once said that a mkiv was a studio camera. So you should re read my post. I said I don't think the selling price will plummet like the 1ds.

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #14238891 (external link)
uh I am relaxed and am not and wasn't arguing with you and I hope you are relaxed too. Well to me it looks like you were talking about the 1ds3

and your reply


Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think there are that many studio shooters who use the 1DIV and most people choose the 1D because of they shoot high ISO not the other way around. Also I thought to most studio photographers resolution is very important and I doubt the 16mpixel 1D4 has higher resolution than the 21mp 5Dmk2 and 1Ds3


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Apr 09, 2012 22:37 |  #15

better make sure the 1div can autofocus as well as you need it to in low light, otherwise there is no point....low light iso and iq was great but I sold mine because af in low light hunts too much....might as well keep the 7d, IMO.


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