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Apr 13, 2012 17:22 |  #211

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Interesting discussion about body of work.

I just don't shoot with that much of a thought process.
I shoot what I see in mind at that specific moment in time, so one photo might have nothing to do with another. IMO, I don't have a "body of work" that has a common recognizable thread. For me, it just doesn't need to be that deep. Again, I shoot what I see and it's a pretty simple thought process that works for me.

Some days I "see" well. Other days, not so much. That's the joy of it for me. The hunt. The feeling of achievement when you get that shot that you are proud of. But it's not something I force or even actively think about.

I know I posted up some photos with explanations of why I chose to shoot those photos that way, but they all come from a very simplistic approach. Shoot what I see.

Its what will take your work to the next level. A style will not only help you in personal work but will also help you in your professional work It will have people hiring you because your work doesn't look like the herd. If the herd is your competition its only going to get tougher out there.

If you want to exhibit in a credible gallery its one thing that the curator will look at and your clients will search you out for it and those are the clients that notice and therefore really matter.

Its a sure way to take it to the next level and it ain't easy. And once you discover and evolve into it the joy just increases.

The biggest compliment a photographer can get isn't "thats a pretty picture" (almost anyone these days can make pretty pictures) but the big compliment is "that looks like one of your photographs" especially when it is one of yours. Thats something not everyone can do.




  
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Apr 13, 2012 17:24 as a reply to  @ post 14261349 |  #212

Bride and her father were waiting in the limo at the church. She was peaking through the window seeing what was going on outside. Her father was looking at her with a joyous expression. I liked the directional lighting hitting the bride through the window and the silhouette that was created on the father.

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Apr 13, 2012 17:32 |  #213

airfrogusmc wrote in post #14261356 (external link)
Its what will take your work to the next level. A style will not only help you in personal work but will also help you in your professional work It will have people hiring you because your work doesn't look like the herd. If the herd is your competition its only going to get tougher out there.

If you want to exhibit in a credible gallery its one thing that the curator will look at and your clients will search you out for it and those are the clients that notice and therefore really matter.

Its a sure way to take it to the next level and it ain't easy. And once you discover and evolve into it the joy just increases.

Allen, I completely understand all of that and quite obviously I am always striving to take "it" to the next level, but it's not something I forcefully do. I let it come naturally. But it's not something I deeply think about, leaving a legacy, a body of work, and all of that. I just don't. I enjoy shooting and I try to shoot what I see as much as possible. That has led me the right way. I'm not saying that's the right way or the only way. It's just something that has worked for me in the 6 short years I've been doing this. :)

You are absolutely right when it comes to the business. There's always that next step that we can all strive to take. Of course with weddings, it's about being able to consistently capture unique moments, and that's not such an easy thing to do because the genre is very formulaic and it doesn't exactly instill creativity. Of course that's not all I shoot and I try to let things that I shoot spill across genres. I feel like shooting weddings help my street shooting and vice versa.

I'm not educated like you are Allen. I rarely if ever study the "greats". I am not all that interested in anything except my own vision and joy. Not sure what that makes me! :lol:




  
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Apr 13, 2012 17:33 |  #214

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Here's another edit with a better crop and some PS to remove a distracting element directly behind the photographer. If I had the PS skills, the other thing I'd like to remove is the sign behind the red headed young girl in the center of the photo.

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I think the sign behind the red-head girl is perfect. My eye goes straight to her BECAUSE the sign behind her makes her red hair stand out. I then follow her eyes to the man she is looking at, and his hands direct me to the red-headed woman across from him, and she brings me back to him via the red-head girl again. I am then locked in a cycle of looking at those three endlessly. So I have to make a conscious choice to break that cycle and consider everyone else in the photo.... And eventually I hit the baby and follow its eyes back to the man and I am back into the cycle again.

Getting that to happen in a photo is rare. I wouldn't change anything about that sign.

I also like how everyone is very actively engaged in looking at something yet all of them also express a sense of boredom, which your title further suggests. It all works together very well.


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Apr 13, 2012 18:00 |  #215

nicksan wrote in post #14261393 (external link)
Allen, I completely understand all of that and quite obviously I am always striving to take "it" to the next level, but it's not something I forcefully do. I let it come naturally. But it's not something I deeply think about, leaving a legacy, a body of work, and all of that. I just don't. I enjoy shooting and I try to shoot what I see as much as possible. That has led me the right way. I'm not saying that's the right way or the only way. It's just something that has worked for me in the 6 short years I've been doing this. :)

You are absolutely right when it comes to the business. There's always that next step that we can all strive to take. Of course with weddings, it's about being able to consistently capture unique moments, and that's not such an easy thing to do because the genre is very formulaic and it doesn't exactly instill creativity. Of course that's not all I shoot and I try to let things that I shoot spill across genres. I feel like shooting weddings help my street shooting and vice versa.

I'm not educated like you are Allen. I rarely if ever study the "greats". I am not all that interested in anything except my own vision and joy. Not sure what that makes me! :lol:

I love photography and I'm not so narcissistic to just enjoy what I create. A good way to learn and grow is from those greats that have come before. Education is on going and everyone can educate themselves. My advice would be search out some to the great shooters and see what they did not to copy but to learn. Bressons work is just full of repeating shapes, killer compositions and all seen in a fraction of a second He could see all of that because he trained his vision to see it. He wasn't great by chance. He worked very hard at it and because of that he had a style.

There are some wedding photographers that had style and many of them were inspired by the ones that came before. Zucker had his own style and was influenced by Karsh and Rembrandt. On the other side of the coin Denis Reggie made the photo journalist wedding style fashionable.

These photographers all were deliberate in developing their own way of seeing and were all very successful because of it.

I can spend hours and hours looking at others work. Paintings, photographs, mixed media, sculpture, motion pictures and even literature and music. Inspiration can come from anywhere and the more we experience the more it shows up in our work.




  
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Apr 13, 2012 18:13 |  #216

If any of you are in the San Francisco area, SF MOMA has a couple of great photography exhibits going right now. One features Reneki Dijkstra's portraits and the other is a series on Photography in Mexico that includes some of Weston's photographs.



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Apr 13, 2012 18:39 |  #217

Timphoto wrote in post #14261563 (external link)
If any of you are in the San Francisco area, SF MOMA has a couple of great photography exhibits going right now. One features Reneki Dijkstra's portraits and the other is a series on Photography in Mexico that includes some of Weston's photographs.

I wish I was in San Fran. We were actually trying to get a trip out that way mid May but it ain't gonna happen.




  
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Apr 13, 2012 20:58 |  #218

Since the "IMAGE EDITING OK" is enabled, does this work? I went for a semi-panoramic look with the tight crop and did a tiny correction to the horizon level.

Excellent thread, by the way!


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Apr 13, 2012 22:33 |  #219

Nope! To me it needed the headroom! I can see what you were trying to do, but it's become too busy IMO.


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Apr 13, 2012 23:22 |  #220

Timphoto wrote in post #14261563 (external link)
If any of you are in the San Francisco area, SF MOMA has a couple of great photography exhibits going right now. One features Reneki Dijkstra's portraits and the other is a series on Photography in Mexico that includes some of Weston's photographs.

thanks for the info...and SF MOMA admission is free for us as our company is a sponsor :)


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Apr 13, 2012 23:40 |  #221

RAWuser wrote in post #14262147 (external link)
Since the "IMAGE EDITING OK" is enabled, does this work? I went for a semi-panoramic look with the tight crop and did a tiny correction to the horizon level.

Excellent thread, by the way!

I tried a crop very much like that early on, but it didn't work for me. While I don't like everything about the full background, it's essential to the feel of the overall photograph.



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Apr 13, 2012 23:51 as a reply to  @ Timphoto's post |  #222

Liked the lines and the man hole on this one.

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From 1250 Ave of the Americas. Just liked the way this was lit and of course the address at the very bottom.
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Interesting table colors.
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I liked the way these Mannequins were lit and the simplicity of the display. The reflection of the vehicle gives you an idea that this was in NYC.
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Grid-like windows with a little bit of reflection of the cloud.
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Apr 13, 2012 23:58 as a reply to  @ nicksan's post |  #223

Wanted to get a shot of the continuous line that ran up one of the streets in NYC.

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Wanted to capture the typical busy intersection of NYC. The many people crossing and the yellow cab, etc.
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Self explanatory.
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Typical place from a different angle...
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Apr 14, 2012 07:19 |  #224

Timphoto wrote in post #14262767 (external link)
I tried a crop very much like that early on, but it didn't work for me. While I don't like everything about the full background, it's essential to the feel of the overall photograph.

Tim, I like your original best. When ya take Jessie Jings Pampered Feet out of it you lose the triangle.




  
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Apr 14, 2012 07:23 |  #225

Nick, when you look at all the photos you've posted in this thread, which ones do you see a visual consistency in and that have a visual link and also maybe show me a little bit of Nick?




  
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