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Apr 17, 2012 15:23 |  #16

DizzyV6P wrote in post #14282103 (external link)
Great photos! I had to run down to the mall during my short 30 min "bathroom break" to take my shots. What lense did you use?

Did anyone ask why you took your camera with you to your bathroom break?

I used both the 100-400L and 70-200 2.8L. Even brought along a 28-135 just in case.


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Apr 17, 2012 15:37 |  #17

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #14281858 (external link)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Shuttle Orbiter also adds a percentage of lift due to the angle of attack at which it's mounted, yes?

Hi Jay. Yes, you are correct. The L/D for the Orbiter is "low" when compared to most conventional aircraft, but there certainly is a component of lift that is added to the tandem flight assembly.

Along those same lines, the Orbiter also contributes a lot of additional drag and turbulent flow around the 747 vertical stabilizer -- hence the need for the modified "triple tail" for added directional control.

Note that there are numerous restrictions on altitude, airspeed, weather conditions, etc. whenever a ferry flight is planned. So Jay, if you're planning a trip to "meet and greet" Endeavour when she is returned to California, please keep your travel plans "flexible," and be prepared for possible delays -- it's definitely not like a regular airline schedule.


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Apr 17, 2012 15:39 |  #18

highergr0und wrote in post #14282146 (external link)
Why is that cap over the shuttle's thrusters? Just aerodynamics?

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #14282148 (external link)
Yup... Improves airflow around the Orbiter. Otherwise, the "burble" around the engine nozzles would create immense drag and would also affect the airflow over the tail of the transporter.

Yes -- what Jay said! :D

FYI, The tailcone covers the three Space Shuttle Main Engines. The Primary and Vernier Thrusters are part of the Reaction Control System (RCS) -- which is different from the main engines. Most of the RCS thrusters are "flush-mounted" into the body of the Orbiter and are generally covered with "debris plugs" during ferry flights. In the case of the decommissioned Orbiters, the RCS pods have been entirely removed for safety.


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Apr 17, 2012 15:49 as a reply to  @ Go4EVA!'s post |  #19

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Thanks for that tip Jay;)
Wish I had thought of it sooner. Now, I've got to go back and fix all of them.

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Apr 17, 2012 16:45 |  #20

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I was torn on which location to choose. Somewhere scenic in DC? Close, but with ugly light, in the Udvar-Hazy parking lot? I played it safe and shot from Sully Plantation across Rt.28 from Udvar-Hazy.

You are right - shooting into the Sun from the UH Parking Lot was not the best - here are a few from there


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Apr 17, 2012 17:00 |  #21

Great shots guys, I like number 2 of on the first page a lot. Nice to see them flying so close together. As I posted in another thread, I can't wait until Monday to the Enterprise over New York.


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Apr 17, 2012 17:03 |  #22

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Hi Jay. Yes, you are correct. The L/D for the Orbiter is "low" when compared to most conventional aircraft, but there certainly is a component of lift that is added to the tandem flight assembly.

Along those same lines, the Orbiter also contributes a lot of additional drag and turbulent flow around the 747 vertical stabilizer -- hence the need for the modified "triple tail" for added directional control.

Note that there are numerous restrictions on altitude, airspeed, weather conditions, etc. whenever a ferry flight is planned. So Jay, if you're planning a trip to "meet and greet" Endeavour when she is returned to California, please keep your travel plans "flexible," and be prepared for possible delays -- it's definitely not like a regular airline schedule.

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Apr 17, 2012 18:48 |  #23

I've just gone through all the current threads on it's trip & yours are my favorites but there are some other outstanding photos in the other threads. Very nicely done.


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Apr 17, 2012 18:53 |  #24

Great shots! Sad day. (nice that it is going to the Smithsonian, but...)


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Apr 17, 2012 21:22 |  #25

Great shots John! Really liking #2.

I am surprised you have +1 Ev dialed in. Was this due to the cloudy weather? Was it over-exposed and then did you have to pull it back in post processing?


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Apr 17, 2012 21:34 as a reply to  @ jdando's post |  #26

. . . great series, good work, and a lot of lucky photogs posting here today. Thanks for sharing some Discovery history !!


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Apr 17, 2012 22:05 |  #27

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Apr 17, 2012 22:30 |  #28

you and i must have been standing right next to each other. identical shots at identical angles. interesting :-)

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Apr 18, 2012 00:32 |  #29

Very nicely done images.


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Apr 18, 2012 09:42 |  #30

Go4EVA! wrote in post #14281662 (external link)
Those supports "mimic" the interface hard points that are used for attaching the orbiter to the External Tank. They may not "look" strong enough, but they did the job for thirty years of shuttle missions. ;)

You might also be interested to know that the interior frame of the 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft has been highly modified to support the weight of the Orbiter.

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #14281858 (external link)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Shuttle Orbiter also adds a percentage of lift due to the angle of attack at which it's mounted, yes?

Go4EVA! wrote in post #14282319 (external link)
Hi Jay. Yes, you are correct. The L/D for the Orbiter is "low" when compared to most conventional aircraft, but there certainly is a component of lift that is added to the tandem flight assembly.

Along those same lines, the Orbiter also contributes a lot of additional drag and turbulent flow around the 747 vertical stabilizer -- hence the need for the modified "triple tail" for added directional control.

Note that there are numerous restrictions on altitude, airspeed, weather conditions, etc. whenever a ferry flight is planned. So Jay, if you're planning a trip to "meet and greet" Endeavour when she is returned to California, please keep your travel plans "flexible," and be prepared for possible delays -- it's definitely not like a regular airline schedule.

Go4EVA! wrote in post #14282326 (external link)
FYI, The tailcone covers the three Space Shuttle Main Engines. The Primary and Vernier Thrusters are part of the Reaction Control System (RCS) -- which is different from the main engines. Most of the RCS thrusters are "flush-mounted" into the body of the Orbiter and are generally covered with "debris plugs" during ferry flights. In the case of the decommissioned Orbiters, the RCS pods have been entirely removed for safety.

Wow, I learned a few things today! ;)

Thanks for the insight. :)


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