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*If* Canon were to answer Nikon with a 36mp body..what time frame?

 
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Apr 18, 2012 22:59 |  #31

David Arbogast wrote in post #14290315 (external link)
My PC handles the 36MP files just fine, thank you very much. ;)

Oh I have no doubt! :) Still at 40+mb per RAW file.... I dunno just seems excessive... Don't get me wrong! The reason I know anything about it at all is I really really wanted a D800 when it was introduced! lol


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Apr 18, 2012 23:19 |  #32

If Canon wants to compete in the MP race, they will most likely put it into a new 1Ds model. Full-frame pro body with probably 4fps and 40mp. I personally think 22mp is more than enough unless you're looking to print billboards or crop. I say learn to compose better so that you don't have to crop as much.


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Apr 18, 2012 23:20 |  #33

Invertalon wrote in post #14290390 (external link)
Not really... If Canon has this high MP developed, they could be finishing up right now on the final design, we don't know. We could hear of prototypes being tested real soon or never hear anything about it. It all depends how close lipped Canon wants to be. It doesn't necessarily have to be from scratch if you think about it. They could shove most anything into the current 5D3 body, with some small tweaks (sensor, processors, etc...)

I think Canon will react, it is just a matter of time.

The problem is they have nowhere for it in their lineup without cannibalizing sales of an existing camera and it's going to be a while before that changes. The 5dMkIII is only just under what? 2 months since it was announced? Once you hit that pro-level there's only an average $1,000-$1500 difference in price between all the models. The 1DMkIV is only 6 months old as well.. There's no where they can introduce a camera to rival the MP density without hurting sales of products they've already engineered and marketed. It'll be at least a year even if they truly want a poo flinging competition.. longer if they're more concerned with keeping a better product.. Perhaps the answer is to come back with a new line of lenses?


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Apr 18, 2012 23:29 |  #34

sf_loft wrote in post #14290513 (external link)
If Canon wants to compete in the MP race, they will most likely put it into a new 1Ds model. Full-frame pro body with probably 4fps and 40mp. I personally think 22mp is more than enough unless you're looking to print billboards or crop. I say learn to compose better so that you don't have to crop as much.

Yes! We are seriously headed to 85mm focal length photos of squirrels at 300 yards! :lol:


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Apr 18, 2012 23:41 |  #35

I just finished a job for a client who wanted images that could be made into 6' x 9' vinyl vehicle wraps. I also just donated an image that's going to be made into an 8' banner for a charity event.

The first file was 215MB and the second was 455MB.

Learn to scale images properly and understand printing resolutions Vs viewing distances and you'll find you get a hell of a lot more out of your images than you might think you can.

Oh, both jobs were shot with a 1DMIV... ;)


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Apr 18, 2012 23:49 |  #36
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Blah.

A 3MP is more than enough for everyone. I love my 3MP 5D Mark XXI


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Apr 18, 2012 23:52 |  #37

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I just finished a job for a client who wanted images that could be made into 6' x 9' vinyl vehicle wraps. I also just donated an image that's going to be made into an 8' banner for a charity event.

The first file was 215MB and the second was 455MB.

Learn to scale images properly and understand printing resolutions Vs viewing distances and you'll find you get a hell of a lot more out of your images than you might think you can.

Oh, both jobs were shot with a 1DMIV... ;)

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I would much rather have lower MP with better ISO.


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Apr 19, 2012 00:02 |  #38

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Please God let the video craze fade away soon... If I want a camcorder, I'll buy one... Leave it on the prosumer products for the soccer moms if you want. Don't force photographers to pay for a feature many will never use. It's not done well on either side yet and makes the products feel flawed. It's like sitting down in a Mercedes and being told it comes with a cassette player - no exceptions and oh btw, you're paying extra for it. You'll never convince me shooting 30fps video on a sensor that can only handle 30 minutes of shooting doesn't drastically shorten the usable lifespan of the product... Same with printers... I don't want to dock my ipad, I don't want a fax machine, I don't want a scanner, I want it to print and to print well...

This post is serious leaving me scratching my head. Video is a fantastic feature, and a simple handycam won't replace it... and 30 mins recording time... it's not that it can't handle it, it's a design issue, and even then, 12 minutes is plenty.


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Apr 19, 2012 00:12 |  #39

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*If* Canon were to answer Nikon's high mp D800 with a 36mp body of their own...what time frame realistically do you think they could do this in?

Canon already has a 120Mp sensor, so it's relatively easy if they wanted to.

It's funny that people scream that they want a 5D2 with a better AF and it will be perfect. Canon delivers this exact wish, but some still complain. Those are the ones that will never be happy.


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Apr 19, 2012 00:16 |  #40

I just want a 10MP sensor.


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Apr 19, 2012 00:18 |  #41
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I just want a 10MP sensor.

Then go back to APS-H mark III :)


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Apr 19, 2012 00:39 |  #42

Putting this thread on a Canon forum will have Canon people saying that we don't need more MP. I'm happy with the current MP and performance with the 5Dmkiii over the D800. D800 is only a tad bit sharper even with that extra MP, but the RAWs take up a LOT more space. Also depending on what shots are taken, the D800 won't outperform the 5Dmkiii. MP doesn't always equate to more quality. It's going to always be a balance.




  
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Apr 19, 2012 00:56 |  #43

Canon forum antimegapixel? Go look at the Nikon forums from a year ago and see what they think of more than 12MP. :lol:

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Then go back to APS-H mark III :)

A new one.  :p

I just don't like processing more data than I need and all I need is 10MP. Shoot my current 18MP cam at 10MP anyway.


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Apr 19, 2012 01:07 |  #44

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I don't know. :)
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- To put this into perspective: A 10mp camera gives you images that are 3888x2592. But that 36mp image that makes your CPU fan scream will make a huge difference in large prints right? Not really. That's because the larger the print size, the lower the DPI. Your standard 30x40 print will only have 80dpi which is only 2400x1600.

I think you don't know many fine art photographers who make large prints. Saying they would only be at 80 dpi when printing 30x40 is simply ludicrous. I have severall 30x40 prints (from 8x10 original film) that you can take a magnifying glass to and still see more detail close up. Absolutely everyone who sees them goes up real close without any prompting from me. I used to have a 4x5 and have many of my own 24x30s which people react to similarly. At 240 ppi - a pretty good print resolution, a 24 x 30 requires, guess what- about 41 MP. It's a real challenge for the lenses to capture detail that holds up under 24 x enlargement - more so than for the sensor to be able to capture it. However, a few shots stitched from a landscape will easily get you there :D

Oh yeah, and people (like professional film makerss) use DSLRs because camcorders have DoF like point and shoots - that was one thing that made the 5D2 wildly popular


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Apr 19, 2012 01:15 |  #45

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I think you don't know many fine art photographers who make large prints. Saying they would only be at 80 dpi when printing 30x40 is simply ludicrous. I have severall 30x40 prints (from 8x10 original film) that you can take a magnifying glass to and still see more detail close up. Absolutely everyone who sees them goes up real close without any prompting from me. I used to have a 4x5 and have many of my own 24x30s which people react to similarly. At 240 ppi - a pretty good print resolution, a 24 x 30 requires, guess what- about 41 MP. It's a real challenge for the lenses to capture detail that holds up under 24 x enlargement - more so than for the sensor to be able to capture it. However, a few shots stitched from a landscape will easily get you there :D

Oh yeah, and people (like professional film makerss) use DSLRs because camcorders have DoF like point and shoots - that was one thing that made the 5D2 wildly popular

I'd love to be able to print 20x30 or even 16x24 at 300dpi. :cool:


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