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Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 Di VC USD Announced!!! Stabilized 24-70!

 
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Apr 22, 2012 05:28 |  #841

vinmunoz wrote in post #14306929 (external link)
I'm selling my Sigma 30mm and Sigma 17-50 for this for sure. I don't mind losing the 1.4.

And this has VC, the canon 24-70L doesn't have IS.

I hope it comes out before I go vacation on september.

i don't mind losing the 17mm too. I just hope this will work on FF if ever i'm switching.

If your not going full frame any time soon it just doesn't make sense to do what your going do!


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Apr 22, 2012 06:52 |  #842

vinmunoz wrote in post #14307078 (external link)
i think this is also good for crop if you want more reach.

for my 60D 1.6 crop body it's gonna be 38.4 x112mm. good range for portraiture.

The reason Moda, Pkilla and I commented that the Tamron may not be the best lens decision for you is because this lens has been designed for a full frame camera. It may be an excellent choice for you, but you should think carefully if you are not going to full frame any time soon. I explained why in this post a little while ago below. The information is still valid for the Tamron 24-70 IS.

mattmorgan44 wrote in post #14240154 (external link)
I think saying "worst lens for a crop" is taking it a bit far, but what he meant was there are many better choices for his crop camera. The main reason is the 17-40mm L lens is built for a full frame camera and as such, you pay for many features that will not help you on a crop camera.

For starters you are going to pay for the weather sealing of an L lens, when your crop camera itself is not weather sealed. More importantly, Canon spend a lot on R&D to make a 17mm zoom lens for a full frame camera that will stay as sharp as possible in the corners, won't distort, won't vignette etc etc. most of these things are worst in the corners of the frame. With your crop camera, you cut out the corners of the frame anyway making all the money spent getting those features and image quality in the corners a *waste*.

Because crop cameras don't use the full frame corners of a lens, it is much cheaper for canon to get the same image quality in an EF-S lens, making most EF-S general purpose lenses better value than the 17-40mm L lens for a crop camera


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Apr 22, 2012 07:52 |  #843

mattmorgan44 wrote in post #14307337 (external link)
The reason Moda, Pkilla and I commented that the Tamron may not be the best lens decision for you is because this lens has been designed for a full frame camera. It may be an excellent choice for you, but you should think carefully if you are not going to full frame any time soon. I explained why in this post a little while ago below. The information is still valid for the Tamron 24-70 IS.


FF vs crop, at the end of the day, it should be an individual decision, based on one's need. On a crop, sure you are missing out on the corners of the lens, but did you look at the MTF charts of this lens for a crop? Yes, comparing two different manufacturer's MTF chart, but the corners of this lens on a crop and the potential bokeh look pretty sick especially compared to Canon's 17-55, doing a little mental extrapolation.


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Apr 22, 2012 08:28 |  #844

lilkngster wrote in post #14307481 (external link)
FF vs crop, at the end of the day, it should be an individual decision, based on one's need. On a crop, sure you are missing out on the corners of the lens, but did you look at the MTF charts of this lens for a crop? Yes, comparing two different manufacturer's MTF chart, but the corners of this lens on a crop and the potential bokeh look pretty sick especially compared to Canon's 17-55, doing a little mental extrapolation.

I agree with you completely..

mattmorgan44 wrote in post #14307337 (external link)
It may be an excellent choice for you, but you should think carefully if you are not going to full frame any time soon..

You understand what I posted about, but not everyone does. Not everyone knows that when you buy a lens designed for a full frame camera you will pay for the R&D that went into designing the lens for full frame corners. I responded to the comment a page back because I got the feeling this person didn't know this information.

It may be that the Tamron lens is still the best choice for them. The best value or the best outright performing at that price point. However careful consideration should be given to lenses designed for crop bodies for the reasons mentioned. I havent compared the MTF charts, but no one really knows yet how this lens performs and crop shooters may get carried away in the L Mark II vs Tamron battle and neglect EF-S lenses or their equivalents.. Just saying maybe don't sell your lenses before knowing all the facts.

Also, many people don't realize the field of view they will lose on a crop camera going from 17mm to 24mm. Many people believe the fov gained from 55mm to 70mm is greater, when it is not even close to the loss at the wider end. The loss is exponential at the wider end and I reccomend anyone with a crop body switching from a 17-5x general purpose lens to this lens, check your past photos or tape your lens at 24mm for a day out and see how often you would like to use 17-23mm. Again, the 24-70 may suit you better, but I'm sure many people will make these switches without knowing these things.


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Apr 22, 2012 10:06 |  #845

thanks guys for all the inputs. alright, i'll wait 'til i decide to switch to FF.


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Apr 22, 2012 10:15 |  #846

vinmunoz wrote in post #14307980 (external link)
thanks guys for all the inputs. alright, i'll wait 'til i decide to switch to FF.

I am the last person that should be talking someone out of buying new gear :lol: just didn't want to see you missing your Sigma at the wide end. But if you rarely shoot wide and really want a new toy I'd say go for it :)


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Apr 22, 2012 11:02 |  #847

Did I hear someone say *** Four Days *** ?


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Apr 23, 2012 07:47 |  #848

Now just 1 Day!!


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Apr 23, 2012 09:19 as a reply to  @ dsit995's post |  #849

Just like to point out that 26 April is the Japanese release date.....

Looks like here in aus, we won't see our first shipment until 1 May: http://www.photoreview​.com.au …4-70mm-vc-releases-in-may (external link) at $1239 (less than you guys, harhar)

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Apr 23, 2012 11:42 |  #850

moda wrote in post #14312694 (external link)
Just like to point out that 26 April is the Japanese release date.....

Looks like here in aus, we won't see our first shipment until 1 May: http://www.photoreview​.com.au …4-70mm-vc-releases-in-may (external link) at $1239 (less than you guys, harhar)

http://www.digidirect.​com.au …28_di_vc_usd_le​ns_-_canon (external link)

Thanks for that link! I am skeptical. I have never bought an item in Australia cheaper than the US near an items release date. Ever! I purchased anyway, used PayPal though.

Looks like I will be testing the Tamron 24-70 against the Canon 24-70 II after all!


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Apr 23, 2012 12:08 |  #851

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Now just 1 Day!!

Where do you see one day?


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Apr 23, 2012 12:49 |  #852

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Where do you see one day?

lolz, it was the 24th... now its the 26th :(


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Apr 23, 2012 14:07 |  #853

Shipping date is listed as May 30th on my account now. :( I luckily have an order at B&H too.


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Apr 23, 2012 14:23 |  #854

lol they figure hey the Canon version is being postponed we can do the same thing!


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Apr 23, 2012 15:20 |  #855

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