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Thinking of going D800. Can you talk me out of it?

 
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Apr 23, 2012 22:51 |  #46

FM article was exactly what I expected after seeing what nikon/sony were doing and what canon hasnt been doing.

The resolution advantage of the D800 is nice, but limited in use , you need th right lens at the right aperture to make any real use of it.

The dynamic range is a bigger one but you can work round that more often than not.


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Apr 23, 2012 22:52 |  #47

Jason B. wrote in post #14316887 (external link)
I was simply referring to the earlier post that said it "sucked". Having not tried it I didn't want to speculate. The world would be a much better place if comedians like you would just keep their mouths shut.

But you did speculate -

not tried the liveview yet but cant imagine it sucking


Can't you see in hindsight that was rather a ridiculous comment to make? There's lots of reports the world over that the D800's live view is lacking, yet you come on and post that you HAVEN'T tried it yet, but you don't THINK it will suck. Honestly, we should all set a lot of store by your thoughts should we?

Might be better to go out and try it before saying anything.


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Apr 23, 2012 22:55 |  #48

bikeboynate wrote in post #14316752 (external link)
I think he's watching that youtube review that I posted on here. :p

lol, yea.. three of them (an hours worth) Thanks for the links. Very good stuff.


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Apr 23, 2012 22:56 |  #49

mafoo wrote in post #14316954 (external link)
lol, yea.. three of them (an hours worth) Thanks for the links. Very good stuff.

I knew it!!! :p :lol:
No problem, TheCameraStore has really great unbiased reviews. ;)


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Apr 23, 2012 23:13 as a reply to  @ bikeboynate's post |  #50

Good grief. All I was trying to do was let the OP know my apparent limited experience with the D800. Tell you what fotoworx I will try the liveview so my comment has merit with you. How's that?


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Apr 23, 2012 23:33 as a reply to  @ RobDickinson's post |  #51

I'd say - do it. You can tell us your story and things you love about D800, so we can push Canon to give them to us in next generation ;)

I personally don't think it's my cup of tea. I am used to Canon bodies, so Nikons feel weird when I hold them. I love IQ from my 70-200 and 100 macro and 5D3. And while their shadow recovery abilities are undoubtedly on another level it's not something that would make or break my photos (I do not shoot landscapes for a living).


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Apr 23, 2012 23:33 |  #52

Guys... The 5D3 has the same AF as the 1Dx... INCLUDING the dedicated processor. The 1Dx uses two Digic 5+ processors for image processing, FPS, etc... The additional Digic 4 for the new metering system. Both the 5D3 and 1Dx have a non Digic processor for AF.

This info was from the tech sheets for the cameras.


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Apr 23, 2012 23:38 |  #53

Invertalon wrote in post #14317164 (external link)
Guys... The 5D3 has the same AF as the 1Dx... INCLUDING the dedicated processor. The 1Dx uses two Digic 5+ processors for image processing, FPS, etc... The additional Digic 4 for the new metering system. Both the 5D3 and 1Dx have a non Digic processor for AF.

This info was from the tech sheets for the cameras.

Thanks for clarifying that Invertalon :)


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Apr 23, 2012 23:45 |  #54

Invertalon wrote in post #14317164 (external link)
The additional Digic 4 for the new metering system. Both the 5D3 and 1Dx have a non Digic processor for AF.

This info was from the tech sheets for the cameras.

True, but it does use that meetering system for tracking/face detection and feeds that info into overall AF system.


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Apr 24, 2012 00:05 |  #55

It does, but it is anybodys guess how it will improve the already epic AF system :D


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Apr 24, 2012 00:09 |  #56

Invertalon wrote in post #14317317 (external link)
It does, but it is anybodys guess how it will improve the already epic AF system :D

Well we might know one effect - shipping delay until July ;)


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Apr 24, 2012 01:14 |  #57

Invertalon wrote in post #14317317 (external link)
It does, but it is anybodys guess how it will improve the already epic AF system :D

Sony has a 104 cross type point AF system on tap for their next Flagship DSLR so who knows what Canon can pull out of their hat? :lol:


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Apr 24, 2012 02:13 |  #58

Invertalon wrote in post #14317317 (external link)
It does, but it is anybodys guess how it will improve the already epic AF system :D

The 1Dx will focus on what you want to focus on, before you even know you wanted to focus on ;)


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Apr 24, 2012 02:14 |  #59

KCY wrote in post #14317631 (external link)
The 1Dx will focus on what you want to focus on, before you even know you wanted to focus on ;)

In Soviet Russia, the focusing system focuses on YOU!

:lol::lol::lol:


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Apr 24, 2012 02:19 |  #60

I work at borrowlenses and after having access to both, I actually made the switch from my D7000 to a 5d3; sold all my lenses and now picking up some canon glass. The d800 is impressive and of course, its has all the high IQ bells and whistles but in the end, I figured that:

-90% of my photos are going to be on the web or view on a computer, down scaled and uploaded to facebook or make 4x6 prints at costco by my clients. I doubt they will be printed in huge canvases, so pixel count does not matter to me.

-D800 needs both hands to change the WB and ISO. The buttons are so awkwardly placed that you'll need to take your eye off the viewfinder to look for it. The 5d3 only requires one hand while I keep my eye on the viewfinder info display. Its quicker, faster and less fumbling around.

-Green/yellow cast on the D800's LCD display. No thanks, I want to have an accurate representation of my exposures.

-Double filesizes for the d800. 14 more megapixels and all of the sudden each raw file is 45-50MB? My i7 OC'ed to 4GHz and on 14GB of DDR3 workstation seems to bog down on Lightroom 4 when loading D800 raws. Sorry, I dont want to wait while im batch editing wedding or event photos. If you're the kind of person that only takes 5-6 carefully dialed in shots on a tripod while manually white balanced to perfection, then yeah, I see why the d800 is in favor. When im on a job running and gunning while my subjects are in dynamic lighting environments, I dont have time to waste on LR4 loading 2,400 RAW files just to fix tiny but annoying exposure/WB screw ups later on. Not to mention constantly swapping out expensive high capacity 500x + UDMA CF cards

-Fully customizable controls. The D800 gives you what, one fn button? The entire shutter button side of my 5d3 controls has been completely remapped to my specs.

-Nikon lenses are fragile. I swear, they'll break if you look at them wrong. The 14-24, 24-70, 80-400 have zoom mechanism become stiff and/or completely fail after a few years of constant use. I've never seen a canon equivalent exhibit such hilariously awful life expectancy. They are absolutely fantastic lenses, worth every penny of their premium, don't get me wrong. But then the fotodiox F to EOS adapter with an aperture adjustment lever exist. You can mount F lenses on a canon, but its physically impossible to go the other way around because of nikon's smaller mount diameter.

-Built-in pocket wizards on new canon speedlights. Doubt Nikon will implement that anytime soon since they just released the sb-910 and 700

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