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Thinking of going D800. Can you talk me out of it?

 
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Apr 24, 2012 12:55 |  #106

Switching to Nikon from Canon and vice versa should be about the whole package, not just the body.


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Apr 24, 2012 12:55 |  #107

Kechar wrote in post #14320101 (external link)
He's trolling...he's posting simply to get a rise out of people.

Why would anyone post his post and expect anyone else to "talk them out of" anything?

Really?

happens all the time. cameras, cars/car modifications, relationships, etc. this is as much a social forum as it is technical. with that said, maybe it should have been in a different section where they talk about such things as indecisiveness as opposed to the technical body section.

maybe he posted on a nikon forum too and asked, why would I switch to nikon when the 5Diii is out? then he gets both perspectives.

a corvette forum i am on always has people asking why they should or should not get a viper or 911 instead. lots of people out there, get used to it. it's your choice to make a thread like this a big deal or not. to me, I'm happy to help because it gives me a chance to make up new analogies and talk in code, which i love to do.


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Apr 24, 2012 13:01 |  #108

Higgs Boson wrote in post #14320141 (external link)
happens all the time. cameras, cars/car modifications, relationships, etc. this is as much a social forum as it is technical. with that said, maybe it should have been in a different section where they talk about such things as indecisiveness as opposed to the technical body section.

maybe he posted on a nikon forum too and asked, why would I switch to nikon when the 5Diii is out? then he gets both perspectives.

a corvette forum i am on always has people asking why they should or should not get a viper or 911 instead. lots of people out there, get used to it. it's your choice to make a thread like this a big deal or not. to me, I'm happy to help because it gives me a chance to make up new analogies and talk in code, which i love to do.

true enough


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Apr 24, 2012 13:03 |  #109

mafoo wrote in post #14316350 (external link)
Hello all.

So everything I own Canon, I can sell for what I paid for it, so price wise, it's not an issue.

I am almost ready to make the switch, but before I do, I would like to hear from you guys as to why you think it would be a bad idea. I mostly want this kind of feedback, to help me see something I might have overlooked.


I know this is going to be tuff, but can we please not turn this into a flame war :)

Do it you know you want to:)


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Apr 24, 2012 13:07 |  #110

jthomps123 wrote in post #14320063 (external link)
Lets see how many more threads you can post your picture in... I can start a few more if you'd like. I bet you could easily get it up to the teens; 'thinking about a 7D? - look at my picture!'. '5D af issues - look at my picture!'. Er 90? look at my picture!'. Camera wont shut off? look at my picture!'. Not seen my picture yet? look at my picture!'.

Thanks for posting your picture, we all now know that there ARE cameras that can take pictures beyond the D800, and thats for being original in your enlightening of us.

My god, get the hell off my nuts. I don't know what made you butthurt from one single picture, but you don't need to take it this far.Spare yourself the embarrassment while you're ahead ;)


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Apr 24, 2012 13:09 |  #111

Kechar wrote in post #14320101 (external link)
He's trolling...he's posting simply to get a rise out of people.

Why would anyone post his post and expect anyone else to "talk them out of" anything?

Really?

Look at my post history. I have never, and will never troll in this, or any other forum.

I asked the question, because I wanted the input of the community, as additional information to apply to my decision.

This thread has yet to become a flame war, and I have made every effort to keep it from becoming one.


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Apr 24, 2012 13:10 |  #112

panicatnabisco wrote in post #14319340 (external link)
This shot I took convinced me that my 5DIII sucks because it obviously lacks all the megapickels and I really cant live without 4 stops of dynamic rage!

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I mean, ugh, you cant even see her pores or count each strand of hair on the shaded part of her head! What a horrible archaic sensor this is!

It's too bad you didnt take it with the D800, I would have been able to see the reflection on her pupil at 100%. Unusable image.


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Apr 24, 2012 13:13 |  #113

I just got mine and snapped a couple of photos.
http://www.i2istudios.​com …otos-with-the-nikon-d800/ (external link)

I'll take a few product shots tonight and put them up.

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Apr 24, 2012 13:13 |  #114

btw, IMO, if you dont mind the massive file sizes, then go for it. I think the D800 would fit me better as well, because I really want that in body flash. I imagine the file sizes would zap all the fun out of photography. I deal mostly with sRaw since I dont print larger than 8x10's, and having to deal with the minimum raw from the nikon?.... no thanks.


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Apr 24, 2012 13:13 |  #115

It's an awesome camera. We use the D700. No need to talk you out of it if it's what you want.


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Apr 24, 2012 13:16 |  #116

shaker69 wrote in post #14320138 (external link)
Switching to Nikon from Canon and vice versa should be about the whole package, not just the body.

I agree. I got the D800 partly because of the impressive specs and partly because I had always had an eye on the 14-24mm lens, which enjoys a solid reputation for an UWA zoom lens.

However, there are a couple of serious downsides to the D800, which has led me to the decision to keep and continue using my 5D II along with the D800. LV is terrible on the D800. I thought it was bad at first, then tried to make lemonade out of a lemon, and now I'm back to saying it's just bad, really bad. Nikon-should-be-spanked bad. The second problem is a general Nikon one, they don't have tilt-shifts that compare in quality or feature-set to the Canon wide-angle TS-E lenses.

Downsides aside, the two huge upsides to the D800 is the phenomenal way it handles noise in low-ISO exposures. Even if the D800 were a 22mp camera, like the 5D III, I'd still find it hard not to want the D800 for its low-ISO noise performance, because it offers more post-processing abilities. But, of course, the D800 is not a 22mp camera; it's 36mp. And that too offers tremendous PP flexibility too.

It's water under the bridge for me; I have the D800 and am mostly very satisfied with my decision. But, if I knew now all that I know now, I'm not entirely sure what I would have done. Probably the same, but in retrospect it's not as easy a choice as I hoped it would be. I need to sell a few of my Canon lenses (not the TS-E) to help fund new lenses for the D800 and I'm not looking forward to that hassle.


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Apr 24, 2012 13:45 |  #117

David Arbogast wrote in post #14320261 (external link)
I agree. I got the D800 partly because of the impressive specs and partly because I had always had an eye on the 14-24mm lens, which enjoys a solid reputation for an UWA zoom lens.

However, there are a couple of serious downsides to the D800, which has led me to the decision to keep and continue using my 5D II along with the D800. LV is terrible on the D800. I thought it was bad at first, then tried to make lemonade out of a lemon, and now I'm back to saying it's just bad, really bad. Nikon-should-be-spanked bad. The second problem is a general Nikon one, they don't have tilt-shifts that compare in quality or feature-set to the Canon wide-angle TS-E lenses.

Downsides aside, the two huge upsides to the D800 is the phenomenal way it handles noise in low-ISO exposures. Even if the D800 were a 22mp camera, like the 5D III, I'd still find it hard not to want the D800 for its low-ISO noise performance, because it offers more post-processing abilities. But, of course, the D800 is not a 22mp camera; it's 36mp. And that too offers tremendous PP flexibility too.

It's water under the bridge for me; I have the D800 and am mostly very satisfied with my decision. But, if I knew now all that I know now, I'm not entirely sure what I would have done. Probably the same, but in retrospect it's not as easy a choice as I hoped it would be. I need to sell a few of my Canon lenses (not the TS-E) to help fund new lenses for the D800 and I'm not looking forward to that hassle.

have you tried the picture styles workaround for live view?


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Apr 24, 2012 13:53 |  #118

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have you tried the picture styles workaround for live view?

Yes I have. It helps and I need to do more experimentation with it. It's not a workaround, just a way of getting the best out of a terrible LV.


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Apr 24, 2012 13:55 |  #119

David,

Have you figured out how to get it to meter for faces? I think I have it set correctly, but I want to make sure.


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Apr 24, 2012 13:59 |  #120

RobDickinson wrote in post #14316485 (external link)
Well live view sux, the AF seems dodgy at best and you cant use PC-e lenses properly because of the onboard flash...

It does seem the live view is inferior, the pc lenses look to work okay except you need to use the big knob down when shifting left right, but the PC lenses don't hold up to the Canons, esp the newer ones.




  
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