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Gilthanass
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Apr 25, 2012 08:01 |  #1

Hello everyone,

So, here is the situation I'm in. I am going on my honeymoon in 1 month. On it, we're going to San Fran, Seattle, and Vancouver. While in San Fran, we're spending a day and a half in Yosemite (the highlight of the trip photographically for me). I also just got a bonus at work that will allow me to buy myself a shiny new lens. Oh, and there is a lens sale currently going on at Aden Camera, so I'm going today after work to pick up a lens.

My current lens selection is relatively limited. I have the 17-85 4-5-5.6 and the 70-200 4.0L (non-IS) (obviously I have a crop camera, 40D). I have been into photography for coming up on 3 years now with those two lenses. I have found that the pictures I take that I like the most (the ones I tend to print and frame) lean towards the landscape side of things, so I think I'm looking for another lens that will help me on that. Let's say I have about $1k to spend on a lens.

So far, I've been looking at 2 lenses. The 10-22 EF-S, and the 17-55 2.8 EF-S. Recently I also discovered the 15-85 EF-S which seems to be getting universal acclaim. To be honest, I'm leaning towards the 10-22 right now, since it covers a range I don't have yet, and the other 2 are both covered (albeit in an inferior way) by my 17-85 lens. So, should I get the 10-22 now, and worry about upgrading my current lens later, or is there a good reason I should be going with one of the other 2? Also, are there any other lenses that I've overlooked that I should be considering for my needs?

Any help/advice is appreciated! Thanks,


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Apr 25, 2012 08:07 |  #2
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Do you like your 17-85?

Personally i'd upgrade the body to something like a 60D. Why? Better ISO performance and cropability.

Then spend the rest on a Sigma 10-20...


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Apr 25, 2012 08:15 |  #3

I can't speak from actual experience, but the 15-85 gets alot of praise on this forum. I have seen tons of great shots taken with this lens. It is also a very functional zoom range, and would be perfect for your honeymoon.

That being said, your 17-85 is a perfectly good lens, and the 10-22 is also a great ultra-wide angle lens.

You need to ask yourself what you want. If you want overall zoom range, get the 10-22. If you are looking for quality, the 15-85 or 17-55 (when paired with your 70-200) would give you a nice pair of lenses. Also, you wouldn't have to carry 3 lenses.


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Apr 25, 2012 08:16 |  #4

I have the 15-85 and it's as great as people claim it to be. However, you seem happy with your 17-85 and 70-200, so I would get the 10-22 today.


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Apr 25, 2012 08:17 |  #5

I keep the 15-85 on my 7D most of the time. The 10-22 is probably the best ultra wide you can get for a crop sensor Canon. The 15-85 is a great lens and much better than your current 17-85. You just need to decide if you want to upgrade the standard lens or go with the ultra wide for those limited shots when you need it.




  
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Apr 25, 2012 08:19 |  #6

I would suggest only buying EF lenses. Some day you'll upgrade to a FF camera and the EF-S lenses won't work. I have the 24-105 and 16-35 both of which I love. They are so much better than the EF-S equivalents. Also, kin2son has a good suggestion. A 7D can be had for around $1000.


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Apr 25, 2012 08:25 |  #7
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oh i got another suggestion - sell your 17-85 and get 15-85 + sigma 10-20.

Best of both worlds ;)


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Apr 25, 2012 08:49 as a reply to  @ kin2son's post |  #8

10-22 for Yosemite without any question; the 17-85 will not be wide enough to capture the dramatic effect that is Yosemite.


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Apr 25, 2012 08:51 |  #9

I like both my 15-85 and 10-22, 15-85 gets a lot of camera time, not so much with the 10-22.




  
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Apr 25, 2012 09:00 |  #10

Rocky Rhode wrote in post #14325692 (external link)
10-22 for Yosemite without any question; the 17-85 will not be wide enough to capture the dramatic effect that is Yosemite.

This... 100% (I live near yosemite) You will kick yourself for not having an UWA .. I personally use the Sigma 10-20, my mountain workhorse.


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Apr 25, 2012 09:47 |  #11

Haha, that's what I love about this forum, so far the advice is:

Buy the 60D
Buy the 7D
Buy the 15-85
Buy the 17-55
Buy the 10-22
Buy the Sigma 10-20
Buy the 16-35

So now I'm even more confused! I do appreciate though that the people who have been to Yosemite seem to be recommending a wide angle lens. So, is the 10-22 a better choice than the 10-20? I read some reviews that seemed to point that way, but it is 300 bucks more, so is it worth it?

Edit:

Ok, now I'm considering buying both the Sigma 10-20 and the Sigma 17-50, you guys are just confusing me


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Apr 25, 2012 10:49 |  #12

Let's throw another wrench in the pile: Tokina 11-16 f/2.8.


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Apr 25, 2012 11:34 as a reply to  @ archer1960's post |  #13

We visit Yosemite minimum of (4) times every year; have taken a number of lenses with me depending on what our primary focus for the trip.

UWA Lens is a must – either Sigma 10-20 or Canon 10-22 are good choices here, having a lens for low light is another wise choice as much of the valley is in the shade thus either Sigma 17-50 or Canon 17-55 are strongly recommended.

Least used has been my telephoto lens, most generally you want as much of the background of Yosemite in the photo as you can get and you want it in focus too, although taking either a CLP or ND filters along to allow long exposure of the river and waterfalls only adds to the overall experience.

Some of the absolute best photographs I have ever taken at Yosemite came from a $75.00 point and shoot while backpacking; don’t fret your camera body, as a couple good lenses will make all the difference.


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Apr 25, 2012 11:36 |  #14

After using the sigma 10-20, I got the canon 10-22. For me it was worth it. The canon is a bit better in everything. Bit better IQ, bit better flare resistance, bit better focus, bit better range, bit better aperture. It all adds up to a nicer experience. If you're on a budget though, the sigma is great.

I wouldn't get the tokina 11-16 for landscape use. Range is too limited, flares too much, and you're paying extra for the 2.8 aperture which you'll never use for landscape.

To try and clear up your confusion, here's a bit of advice:
If you are happy with your current lenses, keep using them, don't be swayed by people on here who tell you that you always need something better.

Therefore, if you are happy with your 17-85, don't bother upgrading it, and get the canon 10-22.

If you aren't happy with your 17-85, then upgrade it.

If you need 2.8, then go for the sigma 17-50. If you prefer having more range, get the 15-85, or if you want a bit of both, get the sigma 17-70 OS.


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Apr 26, 2012 06:44 |  #15

I ended up getting the Sigma 10-20 and the sigma 17-50, I'm a weak weak man. Thanks for all the help!


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