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When do you guys actually use flash?

 
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Apr 25, 2012 13:24 |  #1

Lets say there is ambient lighting (From a bulb at night).. enough for you to capture an image at whatever settings you need to capture that image... would you still use bounce flash to get that soft effect in the photo (also make the image more whiter due to flash)? or would you only use ambient lighting and leave it as it comes out (even if ambient lighting produces warm or cold colors)?


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Apr 25, 2012 13:31 |  #2

creative decision by photographer.... no rule.


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Apr 25, 2012 13:34 |  #3

PhilF wrote in post #14327245 (external link)
creative decision by photographer.... no rule.

i mean is it better to just flash every photo and get that white effect from a bounced ceiling or a wall, and then later on adjust colors in PP... or to just get ambient lighting photo and then pull back or forward colors in PP..

does it make any difference?


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Apr 25, 2012 14:00 |  #4

I use it whenever the light is either really ugly or flat (ugly) or if Im going for a specific effect. Since most of the time, one of these is true, I end up using flash a lot.


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Apr 25, 2012 14:09 |  #5

As has been mentioned above the choice to use a flash is as much about the quality of light as quantity of light. A single bulb might produce enough light, but is it from the right direction? Does it provide the shadow quality you want, or the the shadow density without flash? Using flash allows you to make a scene rather than accept what you were given.




  
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Apr 25, 2012 15:13 |  #6

It's the "Small Flash and Studio Lighting" forum...

The real question is when do you NOT use a speedlight?




  
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Apr 25, 2012 15:22 |  #7

MrScott wrote in post #14327803 (external link)
It's the "Small Flash and Studio Lighting" forum...

The real question is when do you NOT use a speedlight?

When the Preist say so. ;)


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Apr 25, 2012 15:33 |  #8

i personally try my shots without the flash and look at them... then try with and figure out which I like better..


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Apr 25, 2012 15:33 as a reply to  @ JakAHearts's post |  #9

I have used flash as the main and ambient as the rim / kicker, backligh...it gives a nice warm glow


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Apr 25, 2012 15:33 |  #10

TeleFragger wrote in post #14327901 (external link)
i personally try my shots without the flash and look at them... then try with and figure out which I like better..

At some point it will become so intuitive that you wont have to bother.




  
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Apr 25, 2012 15:38 |  #11

5W0L3 wrote in post #14327264 (external link)
i mean is it better to just flash every photo and get that white effect from a bounced ceiling or a wall, and then later on adjust colors in PP... or to just get ambient lighting photo and then pull back or forward colors in PP..

does it make any difference?

I gel to match the ambient when I use portable strobes and when I do I usually use it as fill to keep shadows like eye sockets from getting to dark. I use them in situations when the ambient wont give me what I need.




  
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Apr 25, 2012 15:41 |  #12

5W0L3 wrote in post #14327208 (external link)
Lets say there is ambient lighting (From a bulb at night).. enough for you to capture an image at whatever settings you need to capture that image... would you still use bounce flash to get that soft effect in the photo (also make the image more whiter due to flash)? or would you only use ambient lighting and leave it as it comes out (even if ambient lighting produces warm or cold colors)?

You can make the scene look as warm or cool as you like regardless of the light source by adjusting the white balance.




  
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Apr 25, 2012 16:05 |  #13

JakAHearts wrote in post #14327842 (external link)
When the Preist say so. ;)

Haaaaaaha - one of the only places you really need a few...




  
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Apr 25, 2012 16:39 |  #14

When I was a young commercial photographer just starting out, I thought of myself as an available light photographer. Using a "Potato Masher" flash gun made the pictures look like newspaper shots. :-)

Now, with tiltable/swivable heads on speedlites, I'm still an available light photographer, its just that I now have a light available on my camera that I can control to help create definition and character in the image. I find that I'm using a speedlite on my camera even for family pictures a christmas etc.

Its always bounced, the flash tube never is aimed toward the subject and the flash head has a piece of Michael's foam card on it to deflect the light away from the subject.

And then there are all the studio monolight setups for portraits, etc. where the ambient light is eliminated with shutter speed.

And yes, I also do only ambient available light in dark churches -- that always seems to be when the officiant says no flash - except for guests with point and shoot cameras. :-)

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Apr 25, 2012 16:54 |  #15

Whenever I need light.


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