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Thinking of going D800. Can you talk me out of it?

 
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Apr 26, 2012 01:10 |  #211

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Canon beats all except for more mega-pickles and low ISO DR (although not much natively)... i.e. Not pushing files 5 stops... Show me a D800/5D3 comparison with the same exposure settings, similar lens, etc... Without being edited any. I have seen quite a few and the difference is barely noticeable, if at all.

Canon leads with better FPS, ergonomics, AF system, white balance, video integration, live-view, lens selection, high ISO and color/contrast SOOC.

That being said, the D800 is a great camera body. Chose whatever you think is best for what you shoot. Not exactly the same target audience between both cameras, so to me, I don't see how the decision can be so difficult.

Just out of curiosity, how is the MK 3's live view better than Nikon's implementation?




  
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Apr 26, 2012 01:19 as a reply to  @ post 14320570 |  #212

I know the 5D MK3 have better sealing against the elements compared to the MK2, but is the camera actually weather sealed like the D800? Or the D800 win in that department by having better environmental seals? I see nothing in Dpreview that mentioned the camera is weather sealed.




  
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Apr 26, 2012 01:44 |  #213

No. 5D3 isnt really any better sealed than the 5d2. Though it does have some internal black sticky tape stuff that may possibly help.


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Apr 26, 2012 02:22 |  #214

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No. 5D3 isnt really any better sealed than the 5d2. Though it does have some internal black sticky tape stuff that may possibly help.

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Apr 26, 2012 02:41 |  #215

Roger at lensrental who has taken one apart and knows his way around a 5d2


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Apr 26, 2012 03:12 |  #216

RobDickinson wrote in post #14331066 (external link)
Roger at lensrental who has taken one apart and knows his way around a 5d2

Are you saying you have spoken to him, or from the teardown article?

The teardown article only talks about electronic layout and inter connects, it does not discuss weatherproofing.


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Apr 26, 2012 03:37 |  #217

RobDickinson wrote in post #14330951 (external link)
No. 5D3 isnt really any better sealed than the 5d2. Though it does have some internal black sticky tape stuff that may possibly help.

I think they weather sealed the 5D3 a little better...

There's a few seconds at the end that show how the 5D3 is sealed.

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Apr 26, 2012 03:41 |  #218

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Are you saying you have spoken to him, or from the teardown article?

I've spoken to him. He want 100% sure but couldnt really see any noticeable improvements.


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Apr 26, 2012 03:50 |  #219

Not going to read all 15 pages, but to the OP, go ahead and switch. If you think it will make you a better photographer, then do it. Reading too much into dxo test results and reviews will never make you happy with either. I'm completely happy with my 5D3 and that's all that matters.


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Apr 26, 2012 04:08 |  #220

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I've spoken to him. He want 100% sure but couldnt really see any noticeable improvements.

ah k, fair enough


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Apr 26, 2012 08:27 |  #221

sf_loft wrote in post #14331204 (external link)
If you think it will make you a better photographer, then do it.

Just to respond to this (because it has come up a few times in this thread).

No camera is going to make a photographer better. However, for each individual, better equipment can yield better results.

As a very simple example. If I had two cameras that are identical, with the exception of one has twice the FPS as the other, and I was shooting something fast moving, when I went to select the best shot, I have twice the images to chose from. There is a 50% change the image I chose would not have been captured with the slower camera, thus I have a 50% chance of a better final result.

However, a pro photographer could be at the same event, take one picture, and walk away with a better capture.

So there is a difference here. I will not be a better photographer with better equipment. However better equipment will afford me the possibility of a better capture within my skill level.

One is not a substitute for the other.


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Apr 26, 2012 09:04 |  #222

RobDickinson wrote in post #14330951 (external link)
No. 5D3 isnt really any better sealed than the 5d2. Though it does have some internal black sticky tape stuff that may possibly help.

The 5D3 is extensively weather sealed, though not to the same degree as a 1DX. See below screen shots published by Canon:


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Be careful, after seeing this even I am not sure anymore if I should not get the D800 and return my 5d MKIII: http://www.youtube.com …6h8A&index=1&fe​ature=plcp (external link)


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Apr 26, 2012 09:09 |  #224

sf_loft wrote in post #14331204 (external link)
Not going to read all 15 pages, but to the OP, go ahead and switch. If you think it will make you a better photographer, then do it. Reading too much into dxo test results and reviews will never make you happy with either. I'm completely happy with my 5D3 and that's all that matters.

I agree.
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Apr 26, 2012 09:14 |  #225

Camera_User87 wrote in post #14332038 (external link)
Be careful, after seeing this even I am not sure anymore if I should not get the D800 and return my 5d MKIII: http://www.youtube.com …6h8A&index=1&fe​ature=plcp (external link)

You totally should! :D


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