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85mm 1.8 or 100mm Macro 1.8 for portraits

 
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May 01, 2012 18:11 |  #1
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Looking for a new portrait lens(beauty and fashion as well). I might just save now and purchase either the 85 1.8 (non L) / 100mm 2.8 (non L)

Another option that I have would be between the 24-105mm f/4 zoom (5d3 kit lens) or the 100mm Macro L lens.
Would I be loosing out much on IQ if I went for the zoom over the macro?
I would like the macro lens based on the reviews of it.
but with the 24-105 I can save 2-300 dollars and get a much better range.
This lens would be used on a 5d3


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May 01, 2012 18:18 |  #2

On what camera...APS-C or FF ? Makes a big difference in lens selections.


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May 01, 2012 18:21 |  #3

There is no 100mm 1.8. There is a 100mm 2.8 macro and a 100mm 2.0. I've used all 3. I prefer the 100mm focal length over the 85mm. The 100mm 2.8 macro (either version, IS or non-IS) has the best IQ of the 3.




  
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nightcat wrote in post #14362793 (external link)
There is no 100mm 1.8. There is a 100mm 2.8 macro and a 100mm 2.0. I've used all 3. I prefer the 100mm focal length over the 85mm. The 100mm 2.8 macro (either version, IS or non-IS) has the best IQ of the 3.

Post edited. Thanks for the correction. So in your opinion between the 85 and 100mm (both non L) you would go with the 100mm because it has the best IQ AND its a better focal length to you?

What do you shoot might I ask?


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Wilt wrote in post #14362778 (external link)
On what camera...APS-C or FF ? Makes a big difference in lens selections.

5d3


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May 01, 2012 18:37 |  #6

Last I check the 24-70 was a f2.8 and was more than a 100L. And I am going to assume you mean the 24-105 which is roughly the same cost as the 100L. As I have both (on a 1.3 crop) the 100L is much much sharper, but a little bit slower on the auto focus (with the focus distance selector wide open)? The versatility of the zoom is really nice though. I would never get rid of my 100L and I would only get rid of my 24-105 for the 24-70 but I wouldnt miss the IS if I did.

Edit: I see you have corrected the 24-70 f4 typo.


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May 01, 2012 18:42 |  #7

With the excellent high ISO rating of the III I wouldn't be as concerned with the f stop. So far as sharpness yes it is needed but what do we all do in post? We process the image.

I photograph weddings, families, and seniors portraits and have no qualms with using the 24-105. It is very sharp.


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Brendo666 wrote in post #14362860 (external link)
Last I check the 24-70 was a f2.8 and was more than a 100L. And I am going to assume you mean the 24-105 which is roughly the same cost as the 100L. As I have both (on a 1.3 crop) the 100L is much much sharper, but a little bit slower on the auto focus (with the focus distance selector wide open)? The versatility of the zoom is really nice though. I would never get rid of my 100L and I would only get rid of my 24-105 for the 24-70 but I wouldnt miss the IS if I did.

Edit: I see you have corrected the 24-70 f4 typo.

Yes, I've been wanting the 100 for a while but I didnt want to pay for the L. At the same time, if I were to buy the 100 I honestly would rather get the best available...
That zoom does look tempting for a cheaper price though. hmm options options.


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May 01, 2012 18:44 |  #9

If you are on a FF then 85 if on a cropped then 50.

I shoot FF and have/use the 85 1.2 but often use either the 24-105 or 70 -200 depending on the situation.


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May 01, 2012 18:48 |  #10

Since your interest is both 'fashion' and 'beauty', the 24-105 would seem to offer the full range of FL that you need for most flexibility of shooting, regardless of the desire for tighter framing (at 10mm) vs. full length work (at 35-50mm), especially if you are not trying to achieve the razor thin DOF that a lot of enthusiasts want.


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May 01, 2012 18:48 |  #11

AAphotog wrote in post #14362876 (external link)
Yes, I've been wanting the 100 for a while but I didnt want to pay for the L. At the same time, if I were to buy the 100 I honestly would rather get the best available...
That zoom does look tempting for a cheaper price though. hmm options options.

The 100L is only $979 right now
The 24-105 is $1149 right now

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So it really comes down to what you want/need. What kind room are you working with while you are shooting? Will the 100mm be too limiting for you?


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May 01, 2012 18:48 |  #12

I shoot portraits, nature, sports, candids, etc. The focal length is a personal thing. You may prefer the 85mm focal length. Many people do.The 85mm is a fine lens. Its sharp but there's some CA at 1.8.
The 100mm macro is a sharper lens. The only lens that may have better IQ in that general focal range would be the 60mm 2.8. The 100mm 2.8 and the 60mm 2.8 are both macro lenses which may explain the great image quality.




  
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May 01, 2012 18:53 |  #13

I love my 100mm (both my Canon and Zeiss- they are so different). After getting the canon 100L, I ended up selling my 85mm 1.8. The 100 is sharper and the focal lengths were close enough that I really didn't use the 85 anymore. Even after getting the Zeiss 100 (which is awesome), I still like my Canon 100mm enough to keep both 100s! If I was forced to only have one lens- it would be the Canon 100L.

I have never owned the 24-105, but I have used a friend's several times. It is a nice lens, but it has never wowed me. Although if I ever find a killer deal on one I might pick one up just to have one zoom in my bag. But primes "speak" to me more.


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Brendo666 wrote in post #14362911 (external link)
The 100L is only $979 right now
The 24-105 is $1149 right now

(from bh photo)

So it really comes down to what you want/need. What kind room are you working with while you are shooting? Will the 100mm be too limiting for you?

I can get the 24-105 for aboout 750(some selling from the 5d3 kit)

The indoor studio is a nice size where the 100 wouldnt be too long. It would also be alot of outdoor shooting. It would be nice to get the zoom range of the zoom, Im just not TOO concerned with it. I'd rather the IQ if the difference is that big between the two lenses. Its just kind of hard to make the decision with the zoom being a zoom AND 200 cheaper. at times, I wouldnt mind the thin depth of field of the 100 either.If the price of the zoom was around 1,000+, this would be an easy decision.


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May 01, 2012 18:58 |  #15

I have owned both the 85 1.8 and the 100mm macro L. They are both nice lenses. Nightcat was right about the 85 having CA at 1.8 and even @ 2.2. The 100mm macro is much sharper. I kept both for a year, and realized I wasn't using the 85mm much and sold it.


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