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Apr 27, 2012 15:51 |  #1186

ah k, thanks for the clarification


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Apr 27, 2012 15:52 |  #1187

tccin3D wrote in post #14340050 (external link)
Problem with all those reviewers is that they are biased, even Loyd Chambers. D800 and d800 e both have moire. Canon has it but much less than 5d m2. Canon is best for video. That FM test, Canon is upsampled to 36mpix and than compared to d800 for moire artifacts, useless and misleading. Canon 5d mk3 is the best low light camera for half of the price of D4. Nikon has the studio and landscape in hands. For general usage 5d3 is enough, pattern in shadow is not an issue for most of the 5d shooters, lift the shadows to match what the eyes are seeing - most of the time it is good enough. D800 is excellent in terms of noise but 5d3 is much better (even if you downsample to 8mpix like dxo). It is more about how 5d3 and D4 compare and eventually 5Dx or 3Ds (or whatever it will be) with d800. 5D3 is sold out, D800 is even more sold out :). Both cameras are doing great on the market. No one is a looser or a winner. The only problem with Canon is that they don't have studio camera at the moment and people are craving for even more mega pixels.

right, the 5D3 is better at higher ISO levels and of course better image quality, it just doesn't have all the megapixels




  
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Apr 27, 2012 15:59 |  #1188

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right, the 5D3 is better at higher ISO levels and of course better image quality, it just doesn't have all the megapixels

Hey watt100, that was your 8,000th post!:D


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Apr 27, 2012 16:02 |  #1189

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Hey watt100, that was your 8,000th post!:D

Whoa !
I can hardly wait for the bonus points and other benefits
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Apr 27, 2012 16:06 |  #1190

tccin3D wrote in post #14340050 (external link)
Problem with all those reviewers is that they are biased, even Loyd Chambers. D800 and d800 e both have moire.

I wouldn't say Reichmann is biased. He used many cameras (compacts, APS-C , FF DSLRs and MF backs) all of which he has bought himself. He switched from Nikon to Canon when the D30 appeared, used and praised Canon DSLRs in the last 10 years or so. If he says that moire isn't a big deal with the D800E you can be sure he's right.

That FM test, Canon is upsampled to 36mpix and than compared to d800 for moire artifacts, useless and misleading.

Sorry but the noise and banding did not come from upsampling.

Canon 5d mk3 is the best low light camera for half of the price of D4.

You mean when you shoot noise corrected JPEG?


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May 01, 2012 05:04 as a reply to  @ afalco's post |  #1191

found this trough whotalking.com (social media search engine)
http://geekbeat.tv …-d800-vs-canon-5d-mk-iii/ (external link)




  
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May 01, 2012 05:22 |  #1192

afalco wrote in post #14340278 (external link)
Sorry but the noise and banding did not come from upsampling.

Noise and banding /= moire.

Scaling in any direction from the native resolution is most likely going to cause moire on fine, repeated patterns on pretty much any digital image out there.

You always will get errors when you either take data away, or start making it up

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found this trough whotalking.com (social media search engine)
http://geekbeat.tv …-d800-vs-canon-5d-mk-iii/ (external link)

Wait...

25.3 bits colour depth? How is that possible? How do you get 0.3 of a bit?

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edit - "sensor" should have read "image".




  
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May 01, 2012 08:05 as a reply to  @ EtherealZee's post |  #1193

25.3 comes from Dxo ratings




  
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May 01, 2012 09:19 |  #1194

EtherealZee wrote in post #14358755 (external link)
25.3 bits colour depth? How is that possible? How do you get 0.3 of a bit?

Z...

What it means is that the number of steps in colour graduation is equal to what could be represented with a hypothetical 25.3 bit number. That is, more than 25 bits (33 million or so) but less than 26 bits (67 million or so). 25.3 bits works out to 41 million.




  
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May 01, 2012 16:40 as a reply to  @ Shadowblade's post |  #1195

http://www.robgalbrait​h.com …age.asp?cid=7-11676-12555 (external link)
d800 and e version both have moire but it can be cleaned…




  
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May 02, 2012 02:28 |  #1196

tccin3D wrote in post #14359324 (external link)
25.3 comes from Dxo ratings

Shadowblade wrote in post #14359684 (external link)
What it means is that the number of steps in colour graduation is equal to what could be represented with a hypothetical 25.3 bit number. That is, more than 25 bits (33 million or so) but less than 26 bits (67 million or so). 25.3 bits works out to 41 million.

Thanks for the explanations - sounds a little like marketing mumbo jumbo, but anyway, I do see how it was worked out. Still, I think you see my point about 0.3 of a bit...

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May 02, 2012 13:18 |  #1197

tccin3D wrote in post #14362270 (external link)
http://www.robgalbrait​h.com …age.asp?cid=7-11676-12555 (external link)
d800 and e version both have moire but it can be cleaned…

So does the 5D3...




  
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May 02, 2012 13:36 |  #1198

EtherealZee wrote in post #14364916 (external link)
Thanks for the explanations - sounds a little like marketing mumbo jumbo, but anyway, I do see how it was worked out. Still, I think you see my point about 0.3 of a bit...

Z...

All I understand is that you have (or had) no idea what a "bit" in this case represented.


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May 03, 2012 02:14 |  #1199

AngryCorgi wrote in post #14367492 (external link)
All I understand is that you have (or had) no idea what a "bit" in this case represented.

Quite possible, in fact, probable - less likely, they are representing their info in the wrong way :P. I have always known a "bit" to be the smallest unit of information in the digital world - and it's either on or off, so very hard to be 0.3 on...

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May 03, 2012 02:28 |  #1200

You are thinking it the wrong way.
25.3 bits is a number like any decimal.
It's 2^25.3 which translates to 41,310,351 colors.
Nothing more nothing less.
No need to "overthink" it.


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