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May 03, 2012 18:10 |  #1

I want to know the best settings for Sports, or quick movement.
my brother (11 yrs old) plays outdoor soccer (currently) and Indoor (winter)
and i want a good photo of him with the soccer ball, or in a group running...
the photos come out blurry at his feet and the ball, sometimes his hands and face.

i NEEED help!
the lighting is usually good, except today (thursday may 03) its dark and gloomy

and i have these lenses:
-18-135 came with the body.
-1.4. short.
which one would be more Helpful and give me the photos i want :)


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May 03, 2012 19:05 |  #2

You definitely want to be shooting about 1/500 shutter speed minimum, and you'll still probably get some minor motion blur.

As far the the AF, the 7D is crazy with options and I'm still learning the ropes after 2 years. I've experimented with single point and spot focusing and generally like spot focusing the best for football and baseball. Since soccer has a lot of traffic, the expanded AF points may cause some issues with getting the correct person in focus.

Each one has its advantages and disadvantages. So you need to decide what your ultimate goals are for each shot.

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May 03, 2012 19:07 as a reply to  @ MikeG2012's post |  #3

Picture Style - Standard (but sharpness upped to 4)

C.Fn III: Autofocus Drive
1 - AI Servo tracking Sensitivity: Set to -1
2 - AI Servo 1st/2nd img priority - Set to 0 - AF priority/Tracking Priority
3 - AI Servo Tracking Method - Set to 0 - Main Focus point priority (that way the camera focuses on what you want, not what it wants)
4 - Lens Drive when AF impossible - Set to 0
5 - AF Microadjustment - Set to 0 (Most people have said this is ineffective. Even the manual says it needs to be done on location where you are shooting to do any good.)
6 - AF area select mode - I have single point w/expansion selected and single point. Been shooting mostly on single point w/expansion for sports.
7 - AF Manual pt. selection pattern - Set to 1 (Continuous)
8 - VF display illumination - set to 1 (Enable)
9 - Display all AF points - Set to 0
10 - Focus Display in AI Servo/MF - Set to 0
11 - AF-assist beam firing - set to 2 (Enable to external flash only)
12 - Orientation linked AF point - Set to 0
13 - Mirror lockup - Set to 0 (Disable)

C.FN IV: Operations/Others

Shutter button is set to Meter only
AF-ON button is turned OFF (too easy to hit accidentally)
AE lock button (*) is set for metering and AF Start
Hope this is helpful.


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May 03, 2012 19:09 |  #4

donwag wrote in post #14375556 (external link)
Picture Style - Standard (but sharpness upped to 4)

C.Fn III: Autofocus Drive
1 - AI Servo tracking Sensitivity: Set to -1
2 - AI Servo 1st/2nd img priority - Set to 0 - AF priority/Tracking Priority
3 - AI Servo Tracking Method - Set to 0 - Main Focus point priority (that way the camera focuses on what you want, not what it wants)
4 - Lens Drive when AF impossible - Set to 0
5 - AF Microadjustment - Set to 0 (Most people have said this is ineffective. Even the manual says it needs to be done on location where you are shooting to do any good.)
6 - AF area select mode - I have single point w/expansion selected and single point. Been shooting mostly on single point w/expansion for sports.
7 - AF Manual pt. selection pattern - Set to 1 (Continuous)
8 - VF display illumination - set to 1 (Enable)
9 - Display all AF points - Set to 0
10 - Focus Display in AI Servo/MF - Set to 0
11 - AF-assist beam firing - set to 2 (Enable to external flash only)
12 - Orientation linked AF point - Set to 0
13 - Mirror lockup - Set to 0 (Disable)

C.FN IV: Operations/Others

Shutter button is set to Meter only
AF-ON button is turned OFF (too easy to hit accidentally)
AE lock button (*) is set for metering and AF Start
Hope this is helpful.

I use the same custom functions as well.


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May 03, 2012 20:26 |  #5

donwag wrote in post #14375556 (external link)
Picture Style - Standard (but sharpness upped to 4)

C.Fn III: Autofocus Drive
1 - AI Servo tracking Sensitivity: Set to -1
2 - AI Servo 1st/2nd img priority - Set to 0 - AF priority/Tracking Priority
3 - AI Servo Tracking Method - Set to 0 - Main Focus point priority (that way the camera focuses on what you want, not what it wants)
4 - Lens Drive when AF impossible - Set to 0
5 - AF Microadjustment - Set to 0 (Most people have said this is ineffective. Even the manual says it needs to be done on location where you are shooting to do any good.)
6 - AF area select mode - I have single point w/expansion selected and single point. Been shooting mostly on single point w/expansion for sports.
7 - AF Manual pt. selection pattern - Set to 1 (Continuous)
8 - VF display illumination - set to 1 (Enable)
9 - Display all AF points - Set to 0
10 - Focus Display in AI Servo/MF - Set to 0
11 - AF-assist beam firing - set to 2 (Enable to external flash only)
12 - Orientation linked AF point - Set to 0
13 - Mirror lockup - Set to 0 (Disable)

C.FN IV: Operations/Others

Shutter button is set to Meter only
AF-ON button is turned OFF (too easy to hit accidentally)
AE lock button (*) is set for metering and AF Start
Hope this is helpful.

haha i googled "best settings for Sports canon 7D" and i got these, i changed all my settings to this for my camera, and it did the job, though i need a Lens that can get further, this definitely helped! bw!


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May 03, 2012 22:35 |  #6

HolliVonDolce wrote in post #14375959 (external link)
haha i googled "best settings for Sports canon 7D" and i got these, i changed all my settings to this for my camera, and it did the job, though i need a Lens that can get further, this definitely helped! bw!

I was going to recommend that a better and longer lens would help.


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May 03, 2012 22:41 |  #7

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I was going to recommend that a better and longer lens would help.

which one ? there is soo many, i dont even know which one to choose
decisions decisions decisions :cry:


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May 03, 2012 22:50 |  #8

HolliVonDolce wrote in post #14376626 (external link)
which one ? there is soo many, i dont even know which one to choose
decisions decisions decisions :cry:

At least the 70-200mm f/2.8 or 70-200mm f/4.

If money is not an issue then 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS or 300mm f/4L IS or 400mm f/5.6L.


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May 03, 2012 23:05 |  #9

tonybear007 wrote in post #14376672 (external link)
At least the 70-200mm f/2.8 or 70-200mm f/4.

If money is not an issue then 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS or 300mm f/4L IS or 400mm f/5.6L.

:o thank you ! i'll have to start working :D


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May 03, 2012 23:06 |  #10

i like the 300 f/4, if you're looking at lenses




  
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May 04, 2012 00:31 as a reply to  @ rick_reno's post |  #11

Definitely interested. Just have to check them out now. :)

Thank you all! :D


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May 04, 2012 01:35 |  #12

like everyone said, and don't be afraid of ISO. Go 400 or 800 if you need to to get that shutter up to 1/1000s or so.


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May 04, 2012 02:31 |  #13

HolliVonDolce wrote in post #14376626 (external link)
which one ? there is soo many, i dont even know which one to choose
decisions decisions decisions :cry:

I have the Tamron 70-300. I find it works well for soccer, football, and other action sports. Also it won't break the bank. But if you have a big budget there are better lenses out there. I been using it on my T2i but my 7D arrived yesterday so I'm looking forward to soccer season where I can shoot at 8fps.

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May 04, 2012 02:43 |  #14

tonybear007 wrote in post #14376672 (external link)
At least the 70-200mm f/2.8 or 70-200mm f/4.

If money is not an issue then 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS or 300mm f/4L IS or 400mm f/5.6L.

If it's youth soccer, a 70-200mm should do fine. It is a bit short for the collegiate/pro soccer level fields. Also OP does not specify how bad the lighting is inside. I've been blessed to shoot inside a well-lit stadium, but I know many others are not.


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May 04, 2012 04:39 |  #15

donwag wrote in post #14375556 (external link)
AF-ON button is turned OFF (too easy to hit accidentally).
AE lock button (*) is set for metering and AF Start.

I disagree. First, I don't consider the AF-ON button too easy to hit accidentally, and even if you do, it's usually no big issue.
Instead, set AF-ON to do AF/metering with the selected AF point (which is the normal mode), and set the * button to do the same with the home point (registered AF point).
I use this to register an AF-point (HP) high up in the image, where the face tends to be if the athlete is coming close. I also set orientation linked point to active, so that this can be done for both landscape and portrait modes.
Thus I can track AF with the normally selected point (often center point, or a bit to one side, depending upon composition) and immediately shift to a point higher up, when the composition asks for that. Remember that you can't focus and recompose when you are tracking with Servo AF.

I also have the DOF button set to activate zone AF. This is to use if the athlete comes so close, that the whole shirt or track suit or whatever may fill one or more AF points. If it's like a black, tight suit, there may be no contrast for one point to find. Having nine points active, the camera can pick one that finds a contrast. At these ranges, I can just as well let the camera do the job. Perhaps it comes up with a result I like, and if it doesn't, I'm not fast enough to do it properly myself anyway.

I use the joystick to select the AF point, and set it to return to center if I press it instead of moving it to a side. The drawback with the 7D is that there is now joystick on the grip, like they finally designed on the grip for the 5D Mark III, and on the 1D X body. But you can use the AF selection button on the grip, then roll the dials to move the AF point, so you aren't completely out in the blue anyway. For single runners, taking verticals often makes more sense, since people in general and athletes in particular tend to be taller than wide. Photographing football (soccer in the US) I can imagine that it's probably more interesting to shoot horisontal images, since there are more often other players nearby the main target, and these other players may be interesting to understand the whole situation.

I also store settings like these under the custom positions on the mode dial. I have one setup that's for automatic exposure (sunlight in some areas, shadow in other areas is one typical example) and one for manual exposure (bright and dark suits treated the same).

An example of a picture of a runner in decent light.

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In very low light it's more difficult, and some deviations from the recommended settings are useful. Especially when you need to include one or more flash units to get a picture.
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