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Angelmia
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Apr 05, 2012 01:06 |  #1

I recently purchased a canon 100mm macro L lens ,.. Though I have been using it for portraits lately as I need to get my set up to take photos of butterflies , flowers and bugs.
Everywhere I have read seems I need a twin flash .
I've come to you all with hope you can steer me in the right direction .
I've been on on eBay and they have inexpensive sets ,
They also have a bracket where I can attach the 580 ex II and use their flash bounce .
Here's their link , can you tell me what your recommendation be ? Would it be worth going with any of their set ups ?
Will I be ok with the 580ex a bracket ans a flash bounce for this type of photography or twin light would be better ? Or will I be better off with the canon twin lite flash ?
Here's their link , thanks in advance for any input and advice any of you can give me .
I have an t2i at the moment but planning to get a 7d over the summer .
http://www.ebay.com …5892db9083#ht_4​262wt_1124 (external link)


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Apr 05, 2012 01:11 |  #2

The bracket http://www.ebay.com …5892db945f#ht_6​672wt_1124 (external link)
The Flash sync http://www.ebay.com …3cc3aba406#ht_4​242wt_1124 (external link)


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Apr 05, 2012 01:56 |  #3

There are a lot of things to check out in this thread:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=142566

With macro you can start simple and work you way up, so start shooting as you are collecting your gear! In good light, or with a tripod, you can get some great shots! If you already have the 580EXII then one way to use it effectively is to get a hotshoe extender cable and use it off-camera.


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Apr 05, 2012 17:07 |  #4

Thank you Tony, that's what I was hoping for . To use the 580 flash , I just didn't know if it was going to be good enough for macro shots. Would you recommend the bracket for the flash too ?


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Apr 05, 2012 18:57 |  #5

Definitely a 580 or 430 with the 100L, the twin flash does not work so well in my experience, better for use with the MP-E65 lens. If you get a 7D or 60D you can pop up the on board flash and use it to control the 580/430 without need for the off shoe cord.

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Apr 05, 2012 22:24 |  #6

Great! Thanks so much for the info , this should get me started without having to fork out much more money for now ! Appreciate the advice !


5D Mark III, 7D, T2i -10-22, 100 L macro, 50-1.4, 40mm f/2.8 ,18-55 IS, 17-55mm, 24-105 Is L, 70-300 IS, 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS II, 300mm 2.8 IS II, 2xIII, Canon 580EX II, Canon S100
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Apr 06, 2012 08:49 |  #7

The 580 flash will be fine as long as you diffuse it quite a bit. Bounce doesn't work so well outside in the garden...


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Apr 06, 2012 18:32 as a reply to  @ archer1960's post |  #8

I'm in the exact same boat as the OP. I bought the Lumiquest diffuser and a C clamp very similar to what was linked to on Ebay. I found it at Adorama for 9 bucks and it arrived today. Yes, it's a bit on the wobbly side but for the price I'm very pleased. I can easily get started with this set up and spend more if I get serious about it. I'm using the bracket, a 50d, a 580EXII and the diffuser with a 100mm 2.8 macro.

Here is the Adorama clamp-http://www.adorama.com​/FABC.html (external link)


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Apr 09, 2012 22:17 |  #9

Thanks for sharing your setup, I can't wait to get mine !


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Apr 11, 2012 12:44 |  #10

To be honest for up to life size I normally use natural light for bugs. Butterflies I would only use natural light, perhaps some high speed fill in flash if very sunny. Flowers, normally a tripod shot if I am being serious, handheld natural light if less serious.

Only realy use flash with the MP-E 65mm where I am between 1x to 4x typically.


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Apr 15, 2012 12:28 as a reply to  @ Lester Wareham's post |  #11

I personally prefer light weight setup so i can shoot all day in the field. A 270EX is good enough.

For lenses with no IF (internal focus), i prefer to use FMMB (Front mounted macro bracket)

For lenses with IF, you can just use a mount ring/tripod collar:

http://orionmystery.bl​ogspot.com/2011/05/270​ex-for-macro.html (external link)

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May 06, 2012 12:54 |  #12

orionmystery wrote in post #14269688 (external link)
I personally prefer light weight setup so i can shoot all day in the field. A 270EX is good enough.

For lenses with no IF (internal focus), i prefer to use FMMB (Front mounted macro bracket)

For lenses with IF, you can just use a mount ring/tripod collar:

http://orionmystery.bl​ogspot.com/2011/05/270​ex-for-macro.html (external link)

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Tell me how and where the cables are connected to. Like the OC-3 cable is connected to the ball head. Will that trigger the flash? And the cable from the flash, where is that connected too?




  
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May 15, 2012 09:16 |  #13

Ronny Geenen wrote in post #14388312 (external link)
Tell me how and where the cables are connected to. Like the OC-3 cable is connected to the ball head. Will that trigger the flash? And the cable from the flash, where is that connected too?

If you have the 270EX II, you don't need the oce3 as the 270EX II can be wirelessly triggered:

http://orionmystery.bl​ogspot.com …2/wireless-macro-rig.html (external link)

With 270EX I, one end of the cable connects to the hotshoe and the other end, the 270ex.


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May 15, 2012 14:11 |  #14

Ronny Geenen wrote in post #14388312 (external link)
Tell me how and where the cables are connected to. Like the OC-3 cable is connected to the ball head. Will that trigger the flash? And the cable from the flash, where is that connected too?


If you look close, you can see that the cable from the OCE3 is actually behind the ball head and connects to the hotshoe of the flash.


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