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May 08, 2012 16:30 |  #1921

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May 08, 2012 17:01 |  #1922

jwcdds wrote in post #14400377 (external link)
My thinking was along the lines of: "Want to know how to discourage little girls from playing competitive sports? Have them play against their boy counterparts. That will get them to get bored/frustrated and give up real quick."

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that girls/women can't be athletic and compete against and even beat boys in certain sports. I know there are some women out there that would do laps around me and not break a sweat. What I'm saying is at such a young, impressionable age, where kids should be kids and sports should be "fun"... I couldn't imagine it being any fun for those little girls out there.

On the flip side, I can see that boy being teased all afternoon long: "Oooooooo, you blocked a girl's shot." :lol: It's a no-win situation.

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Having two boys who played sports in co-ed leagues, and having coached those leagues - you could not be more wrong.

Up to this point (say 8 y/o), the girls can and do play with the boys quite well - particularly basketball and baseball. Flag football? Not so much.

Niether side of the sex divide has, in my experience anyway, developed the sense that the other is "icky" (for lack of a better word) in 2nd grade. By third? Oh yes.

The girls tend to be a bit more co-ordinated than the boys, though not as aggressive. On the whole, by this point the boys start to dominate, but not exclusively. Younger (and most of these leagues start at 5), the girls can and do dominate.

The best baseball player I ever coached was a girl - who now absolutely dominates U12 travel softball at U10 - and she wouldn't be the same ridiculously high level player she is without that co-ed experience.

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May 08, 2012 17:03 |  #1923

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lol exactly what i was thinking when i saw the pic! and the expression in the kids face behind the action seems to be saying "noooooo dont shoot it while he is close to you!"

lol! Yeah it's coed and number 13 is a monster!


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May 08, 2012 17:07 |  #1924

Bealzabubba wrote in post #14400781 (external link)
/steps onto the soapbox

Having two boys who played sports in co-ed leagues, and having coached those leagues - you could not be more wrong.

Up to this point (say 8 y/o), the girls can and do play with the boys quite well - particularly basketball and baseball. Flag football? Not so much.

Niether side of the sex divide has, in my experience anyway, developed the sense that the other is "icky" (for lack of a better word) in 2nd grade. By third? Oh yes.

The girls tend to be a bit more co-ordinated than the boys, though not as aggressive. On the whole, by this point the boys start to dominate, but not exclusively. Younger (and most of these leagues start at 5), the girls can and do dominate.

The best baseball player I ever coached was a girl - who now absolutely dominates U12 travel softball at U10 - and she wouldn't be the same ridiculously high level player she is without that co-ed experience.

/steps off the soapbox

For the most part you are right. However there always seems to be one boy on each team who separates himself from the pack. Number 13 is a fine example.


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May 08, 2012 17:49 |  #1925

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May 08, 2012 17:51 |  #1926

Bealzabubba wrote in post #14400781 (external link)
/steps onto the soapbox

Having two boys who played sports in co-ed leagues, and having coached those leagues - you could not be more wrong.

Up to this point (say 8 y/o), the girls can and do play with the boys quite well - particularly basketball and baseball. Flag football? Not so much.

Niether side of the sex divide has, in my experience anyway, developed the sense that the other is "icky" (for lack of a better word) in 2nd grade. By third? Oh yes.

The girls tend to be a bit more co-ordinated than the boys, though not as aggressive. On the whole, by this point the boys start to dominate, but not exclusively. Younger (and most of these leagues start at 5), the girls can and do dominate.

The best baseball player I ever coached was a girl - who now absolutely dominates U12 travel softball at U10 - and she wouldn't be the same ridiculously high level player she is without that co-ed experience.

/steps off the soapbox

whats next... stop keeping score? take that liberal crap somewhere else!!!

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May 08, 2012 17:55 |  #1927

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iOS is on your phone, ISO is in your camera... :-)

:lol: haha! iphones are just great.


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May 08, 2012 18:20 |  #1928

gchmblee wrote in post #14400495 (external link)
this one is iso 3200, which amazes me

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I love seeing great pictures like this. I was about to drop $$$ on a 2.8 70-200, but then I was thinking about getting into the micro 4/3 line with the Olympus OM-D EM-5, but I just don't know. I'd love to get this close as my 135L is as close as I can get.


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May 08, 2012 18:24 |  #1929

yesterdog wrote in post #14401182 (external link)
I love seeing great pictures like this. I was about to drop $$$ on a 2.8 70-200, but then I was thinking about getting into the micro 4/3 line with the Olympus OM-D EM-5, but I just don't know. I'd love to get this close as my 135L is as close as I can get.

i had a 2.8 70-200L and returned it to get the F4 version. it just wasnt worth the money for only 1 stop difference and i think the F4 is still the sharpest lens canon makes. the F4 i have now is noticeably sharper than the 2.8 i had.


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May 08, 2012 18:41 |  #1930

Ok, near the last few pictures from the recent trip, here are some (IMO) rather dramatic photographs. Have you ever come across a situation where you did something which seemed pretty safe, but later on realized was really risky?

We were standing on snow/ice/rock that had packed at the foot of a waterfall, and earlier on (weeks ago?) had avalanched down the slope (and flattened trees downslope). We did not know how deep the packed snow was, but given that a rather fast flowing waterfall disappeared beneath us, it better had been really strong...

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The white stuff in the lower half is the packed snow/ice/rock, and where the water was disappearing into, was about 6 feet deep.

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Again, the white stuff is snow/ice/rock; I stupidly walked too close to the edge, and had it crumble beneath my feet; I fell almost up to my waist. It was at that point where we thought... hmmm, maybe we should not be standing here.

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May 08, 2012 19:29 as a reply to  @ m1ket4n's post |  #1931

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May 08, 2012 19:36 |  #1932

gchmblee wrote in post #14401196 (external link)
i had a 2.8 70-200L and returned it to get the F4 version. it just wasnt worth the money for only 1 stop difference and i think the F4 is still the sharpest lens canon makes. the F4 i have now is noticeably sharper than the 2.8 i had.

Very interesting, as it is more than a 1k price decrease. You've caused me to do some rethinking.

I've been wary of the F4 because with an F2.8, wouldn't you get better IQ on indoor shots because you can shoot handheld on a lower ISO?


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May 08, 2012 19:48 |  #1933

yesterdog wrote in post #14401511 (external link)
Very interesting, as it is more than a 1k price decrease. You've caused me to do some rethinking.

I've been wary of the F4 because with an F2.8, wouldn't you get better IQ on indoor shots because you can shoot handheld on a lower ISO?

keep it mind its just a 1 stop difference if i understand it correctly. its like rolling your aperture from f10 to 11.2 which isnt a 1k difference in my opinion but everyone thinks differently and has different wants. i was happier with the F4 simply because it seems sharper to me plus the F4 weighs about half as much. i can take my F4 into professional sporting events without being noticed, but with the F2.8 i looked like i was dragging a wood chipper into the event and not only was i being turned away, but there really isnt a pocket big enough in a coat to hide it in. i took the 1k diff and bought a 24-105L to compliment the 70-200 and i seriously havent had a need for any other lens yet.

also, keep in mind that if youre shooting with the 7D it will perform very nicely at higher iso's


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May 08, 2012 20:00 |  #1934

gchmblee wrote in post #14401571 (external link)
keep it mind its just a 1 stop difference if i understand it correctly. its like rolling your aperture from f10 to 11.2 which isnt a 1k difference in my opinion but everyone thinks differently and has different wants. i was happier with the F4 simply because it seems sharper to me plus the F4 weighs about half as much. i can take my F4 into professional sporting events without being noticed, but with the F2.8 i looked like i was dragging a wood chipper into the event and not only was i being turned away, but there really isnt a pocket big enough in a coat to hide it in. i took the 1k diff and bought a 24-105L to compliment the 70-200 and i seriously havent had a need for any other lens yet.

also, keep in mind that if youre shooting with the 7D it will perform very nicely at higher iso's

Yeah. Also, I was just thinking... I have the 135L F2, which would be more than sufficient for my indoor needs. I shot my band two weeks ago in a Chicago blues bar and the 135L worked perfectly. I'm thinking about getting the 16-35L with it.


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May 08, 2012 20:06 |  #1935

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