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Used Canon 17-55 2.8 vs New Sigma 17-50 2.8

 
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May 08, 2012 14:08 |  #16

Is the canon 2.8 throughout the range?


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May 08, 2012 14:11 |  #17

I've seen the Sigma 17-50 OS go as low as $544 no tax to NY in the US (I actually ordered from Unique Photo, but cancelled it myself after I got in on the 5d2 kit for $2449). I wouldn't pay 800 for it in Canada unless you have no way at all of getting one from the US or you're in a rush.

US warranty is 1 year international + 3 years US only. Sigma Canada is a **** though. Apparently they'll still charge a small fee for service even if it's within the 1st year.

For Torontonians, use a border package shipping company in Buffalo.

I've been trying to convince the gf to sell her 24-70 and replace with the Sigma as we both currently use crops and it doesn't make much sense for our uses.




  
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May 08, 2012 14:40 |  #18

aquaforester wrote in post #14399884 (external link)
Is the canon 2.8 throughout the range?

Yes.:)


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May 08, 2012 18:30 |  #19

I got my Sigma here in Canada new for 700$ last year. The 10 years warranty is nice :).

The cheapest price now in Canada seems to be 755$ in Aden Camera.


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May 08, 2012 20:48 |  #20

The reason I'm asking debating between the two is there are many people out there who still tell me the canon 17-55 is a better lens. Apparently much quicker and better AF in general with the ring usm. Generally people instantly point to the sigma when comparing these two lenses...because the price factor is quite big. However in my case (Yes I live in Canada), the price factor is no longer part of the equation and that's why I'm asking for advice on which lens to pick. Price aside, is the canon 17-55 really a better lens (assuming I get a good copy and not just referring to IQ...lens overall)? And is the warranty on the sigma really worthwhile (vs no warranty on a used canon 17-55)?




  
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May 08, 2012 20:51 |  #21

Sirrith wrote in post #14399216 (external link)
Its not really that difficult:
The sigma has HSM and OS, the tamron has neither. Therefore the tamron costs less. The canon has "canon" on the front and side, and therefore costs most.

Tamron makes VC and non-VC.


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May 08, 2012 20:54 |  #22

Canon 17-55IS's build is just so-so. I think the extra warranty on Sigma is definitely worth it.

Especially for my case since the West coast service center is <3 miles from my house. :-)


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May 09, 2012 02:56 |  #23

saintz wrote in post #14401853 (external link)
Tamron makes VC and non-VC.

Yes, and the VC is a whole $10(!) cheaper than the sigma. Your post said the tamron was, and I quote

a lot cheaper

Therefore my point still stands.


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May 09, 2012 08:01 |  #24

I prefer the canon. Worked wonderfully on my crop bodies and the build quality was fine.


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May 09, 2012 09:04 |  #25

I don't have either lens, but there are advatages to each one. The Canon is sharp with fast and accurate AF. The Sigma is sharp in the center, and is lighter than the heavy Canon. Whether or not this matters is up to you. Personally, I'd prefer more accurate AF. Some reviews have the AF as less reliable or consistent on the Sigma, but I can't talk to this.
The two lenses render color differently, and this could be important to you. Take a look at the lens samples and at pixel-peeper.




  
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May 09, 2012 10:41 |  #26

Sirrith wrote in post #14403369 (external link)
Yes, and the VC is a whole $10(!) cheaper than the sigma. Your post said the tamron was, and I quote

Therefore my point still stands.

Real life new and used prices on eBay show more like $100 to $200 difference, regardless of MSRP. That is comparing VC/OS models. The non VC is even cheaper still.


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May 09, 2012 10:54 |  #27

Calicajun wrote in post #14400027 (external link)
Yes.:)

OK, thanks. So assuming the IQ is pretty much a wash for most, the only read difference is that the Canon has slightly more reach, full time manual and internal focus.


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May 09, 2012 10:58 |  #28

aquaforester wrote in post #14404771 (external link)
OK, thanks. So assuming the IQ is pretty much a wash for most, the only read difference is that the Canon has slightly more reach, full time manual and internal focus.

The Sigma focus ring also spins during AF. It also has a very short 40 degree focus travel so it is harder to precisely manual focus.


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May 09, 2012 11:04 |  #29

Sirrith wrote in post #14397625 (external link)
Sigma because its new, and you won't gain anything in terms of IQ with the canon.

+1. A Canon 17-55 with no warranty (and the IS "might" crap out), or a damn near equal Sigma 17-50 with a 10 year warranty... hmm.

And yes, I've played with both.


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May 09, 2012 11:44 |  #30

saintz wrote in post #14404713 (external link)
Real life new and used prices on eBay show more like $100 to $200 difference, regardless of MSRP. That is comparing VC/OS models. The non VC is even cheaper still.

So in other words the sigma holds its value a lot better, yet you recommend the tamron? Plus, I never mentioned used lenses in regard to sigma or tamron.

Oh, and my prices were from B&H. If you don't call that "real life" I don't know what is.

And yes, thanks for reconfirming my first point; the non-VC has neither stabilisation nor an ultrasonic motor, ergo the sigma is worth more, and costs more.


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