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May 13, 2012 12:00 |  #1

I don't print my pictures, only post them onto Facebook and Flickr, paid jobs are very rare.

But I'd love to get a full frame camera. I tried a friend's 5DII today, and I think my L glass really performed better, and I really loved the images. I also like to take travel pictures and think the 24-105 is the best Canon travel lens(on a full frame camera).

Over here, used 5DIIs cost slightly less than half of a new 5DIII, and I can afford one by the end of this year(I can sell off my crop lenses to get used 24-105 and 17-40). I'll still keep my 7D for nature and macro shots.

Or should I continue to save up for a 5DIII instead? There is no hurry to get a full frame camera anyway, but the 5DII's autofocus is sluggish compared to the 7D. But I can get some nice glass like the 35 1.4 or 85 1.2 with the difference.


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May 13, 2012 12:13 |  #2

i just picked up a used mint 5d MkII($1400) myself and what a different camera from my 1D Mk III. yup, focus is slower, definitely more for stills so my 1D is my birding/wildlife camera now and the 5D II is more for street shooting/candids/lands​capes. have to say though, wow, the images from the 5D II are stunningly beautiful, and the tons of pixels let me crop a bit more. would i like a 5D MkIII? of course, but i'll have to do with two cameras for now.




  
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May 13, 2012 12:15 |  #3

cancan7 wrote in post #14425035 (external link)
I don't print my pictures, only post them onto Facebook and Flickr, paid jobs are very rare.

But I'd love to get a full frame camera. I tried a friend's 5DII today, and I think my L glass really performed better, and I really loved the images. I also like to take travel pictures and think the 24-105 is the best Canon travel lens(on a full frame camera).

Over here, used 5DIIs cost slightly less than half of a new 5DIII, and I can afford one by the end of this year(I can sell off my crop lenses to get used 24-105 and 17-40). I'll still keep my 7D for nature and macro shots.

Or should I continue to save up for a 5DIII instead? There is no hurry to get a full frame camera anyway, but the 5DII's autofocus is sluggish compared to the 7D. But I can get some nice glass like the 35 1.4 or 85 1.2 with the difference.

Good morning Cancan7,

if i was in your shoes i would go for the the 5D MkII and some good lenses ...but this is just me ...
5DMkII together with 7D is a great combination !!!




  
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May 13, 2012 19:11 as a reply to  @ bbb1919's post |  #4

thanks for the replies. Since I'm just going to use the 5DII for casual photography, the autofocus shouldn't bother me too much. I still have my 7D after all.

I'll continue to save up and see if I get a good deal! :)


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May 13, 2012 20:00 |  #5

Get the 5D2, I got a nice used one last month and it's great camera, your right the 24-105 is a great all round lens. I had the lens before I went to the 5D2, yes the 5D2 is slow, I was using my 50D today and it's much faster, but I'm not selling the 50D so I have the best of both worlds. Of course in a couple of year the 5D3 maybe at a better value and I feel the 5D2 will still have a nice value the 5D classic still demand a nice figure.

So I figured buying a used 5D2 I will not loose a ton of money in a year or so if I indeed upgrade it.

Once you go full frame you will notice you use a different set of lenses four your normal photo you take.

And I agree the 'L" seem to shine on the 5D2, on my 50D I loved the 50mm 1.4 but it's not that great on the 5D2, guess I now need to save for another "L" :)


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May 13, 2012 20:30 |  #6

It's a personal choice. It really depends on what aspect of photographic technology you tend to lean on for your shots. Cleaner high ISO is always good but a good f2.8 with good IS often goes a long way towards making up for high ISO stuff when shooting still subjects.

If you aren't doing this for prints is a 5D2 or 3 going to actually be that useful? It's really your choice but does seems a bit like buying a $20,000 stove (as one of my co-worker wanted for his new house) to cook instant noodles.

I do print a lot of photos as I have my own ink jet and I love large canvas print and like Barney Stinson have a guy for that. Just a week ago I was in Europe and before I went I thought well it would be nice to have a 5D3 for low light etc etc. In hind sight the 7D did very well. I got exactly the same quality of shot as someone I know did with his 5D2. He has a stop or 2 better high ISO but majority of his FF lenses weren't stabilized while the excellent 17-55 is. And for UWA it's a toss up really for both bodies. So in the end I find that my shots looks just a good if not better even though in theory my body should be inferior in low light.

And actually, because of the 9fps on the 7D and steady hands I got quite a few very good HDR shots inside churches etc. Ones sharp enough to print at 19x13 and you can pick out the details close up.


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May 13, 2012 20:40 |  #7

I've looked though your flickr and as you dont print big I dont see how a 5d2 will help you any.


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May 13, 2012 20:49 |  #8
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I'd suggest a 5d classic for $700 and some nice glass.




  
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May 13, 2012 20:54 |  #9

Strangely enough the so called slower focus of the 5D2 does not worry me. I came from a 50D so did not notice much difference at all, in fact I would say the 5D2 with better glass is better than the 50D with good Canon EF-S glass (10-22, 15-85 etc). As for the 24-105 on a 5D2 it is a very versatile combination. Even though it is not what I would term my favourite lens, it is easily my most used lens. I was going to hang on to my 50D for birds but after it just sat in the cupboard unused I decided I might as well sell it. Once you get used to the 5D2 you may find yourself in the same position with the 7D. As for speed and accuracy of focus, wait till you stick a Canon 70-200 on the front of the 5D2, it is lightning fast and deadly accurate. As for the question of should you or shouldn’t you, this is always a personal choice. I have tried a 5D3 to see what all the fuss was about, but have hung on to my 5D2 at this stage and cannot see myself upgrading any time soon. The low light capability would be the only thing that may eventually sway me.


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May 13, 2012 22:49 |  #10

gotak wrote in post #14426868 (external link)
It's a personal choice. It really depends on what aspect of photographic technology you tend to lean on for your shots. Cleaner high ISO is always good but a good f2.8 with good IS often goes a long way towards making up for high ISO stuff when shooting still subjects.

If you aren't doing this for prints is a 5D2 or 3 going to actually be that useful? It's really your choice but does seems a bit like buying a $20,000 stove (as one of my co-worker wanted for his new house) to cook instant noodles.

I do print a lot of photos as I have my own ink jet and I love large canvas print and like Barney Stinson have a guy for that. Just a week ago I was in Europe and before I went I thought well it would be nice to have a 5D3 for low light etc etc. In hind sight the 7D did very well. I got exactly the same quality of shot as someone I know did with his 5D2. He has a stop or 2 better high ISO but majority of his FF lenses weren't stabilized while the excellent 17-55 is. And for UWA it's a toss up really for both bodies. So in the end I find that my shots looks just a good if not better even though in theory my body should be inferior in low light.

And actually, because of the 9fps on the 7D and steady hands I got quite a few very good HDR shots inside churches etc. Ones sharp enough to print at 19x13 and you can pick out the details close up.

yes actually I was perfectly happy with the 7D(still am!), just that the 50L really performs well on the 5D2, and I have a versatile travel setup with just the 5D2, 24-105 and 50L.

If I take along a 7D and some more lenses, I'll have even more focal lengths and options to choose from:
5D for landscape and people shots, 7D for tele, nature and macro


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May 13, 2012 22:52 |  #11

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I've looked though your flickr and as you dont print big I dont see how a 5d2 will help you any.

yeah that's right! The 7D is perfect for me, a real all-rounder. Just that I think a 24-105 would be a real nice lens on FF for travelling, instead of switching between the 10-22 and 17-55 on the 7D.

I admit I'm getting a GAS attack, I am saving up for travelling(planning to go to Taiwan and Myanmar later this year), but I thought I could squeeze in a used 5D2 as well :)


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May 13, 2012 22:54 |  #12

24-105 has more range but I think the 17-55 is better.

How about pick up a 15-85 as a travel lens?


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May 13, 2012 22:54 |  #13

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I'd suggest a 5d classic for $700 and some nice glass.

I've seriously considered that too! A used 5Dc costs half of that of used 5D2s, just that I think the AF micro adjustment is really crucial for my 50L, and I like live view when I use my manual lenses. And the screen is hard to check focus when I'm using fast glass.


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May 13, 2012 22:56 |  #14

RobDickinson wrote in post #14427465 (external link)
24-105 has more range but I think the 17-55 is better.

How about pick up a 15-85 as a travel lens?

I intend to get a full frame camera sooner or later, so I'd prefer not to get anymore EF-S lenses, besides I don't like the f5.6 on the tele end. But I'll see if any cheap used ones turn up! :)


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May 13, 2012 22:57 |  #15

Sounds fair enough , I've just moved from a 7d to a 5d2, but then i print large and sell.


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