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May 05, 2012 13:54 |  #886

Hrm, I had an X100 last summer. Sold it due to AF issues. Now I have an OM-D and I'm wondering about the X100... I should borrow my buddy's so I can do a head to head with the new firmware to see just how fixed the AF really is.


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May 05, 2012 14:15 |  #887

I'd stick w/ the om IMO but that's just me


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May 05, 2012 19:43 |  #888

is it true that the X100 firmware update cause the camera to lose auto ISO?


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May 05, 2012 22:32 |  #889

aladyforty wrote in post #14385386 (external link)
is it true that the X100 firmware update cause the camera to lose auto ISO?

No, still there. It's tied in with the ISO tab, it should be included in the ISO screen though.



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May 06, 2012 07:03 |  #890

jacobsen1 wrote in post #14384144 (external link)
Hrm, I had an X100 last summer. Sold it due to AF issues. Now I have an OM-D and I'm wondering about the X100... I should borrow my buddy's so I can do a head to head with the new firmware to see just how fixed the AF really is.

Wouldn't hurt to compare the two, but I would expect that the OM-D will beat it handily in the AF department provided you're not using one of the slower-focusing lenses. I have to say, I haven't been able to actually get an OM-D in my hands yet, but it definitely looks like the first m4/3 camera that can compete with the larger sensors in terms of pixel-level detail - an area where, as far as I'm concerned, the X100 was the reigning champion of the APS-C world until the XP1 came along. I think I'd be sorely tempted to trade my NEX-7 and associated glass for an OM-D and the new CV 17.5/0.95 if the opportunity for a straight swap came along.


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May 06, 2012 08:00 |  #891

cptrios wrote in post #14387178 (external link)
Wouldn't hurt to compare the two, but I would expect that the OM-D will beat it handily in the AF department provided you're not using one of the slower-focusing lenses. I have to say, I haven't been able to actually get an OM-D in my hands yet, but it definitely looks like the first m4/3 camera that can compete with the larger sensors in terms of pixel-level detail - an area where, as far as I'm concerned, the X100 was the reigning champion of the APS-C world until the XP1 came along. I think I'd be sorely tempted to trade my NEX-7 and associated glass for an OM-D and the new CV 17.5/0.95 if the opportunity for a straight swap came along.

yeah, the OM-D is the MFT camera that makes that format make sense. Honestly I wish the GX1 had the same IQ because I like that layout better, I don't really need the EVF (and didn't on the X100 either) but the sealing and FPS on the OM-D as well as the IQ have me here. One of my issues with the OM-D is it's size, the EVF where an SLR's OVF would be makes it bigger than I'd like -vs- say an X100 or NEX7... I'm just thinking in terms of sticking it in a pocket for skiing or a small pelican for sailing... OMD has the lens choices but that's a slippery slope. I liked the X100's lack of options because it saved me money. But on the other hand I can do a lot more with a MFT if I get the right setup (IE legitimately landscape with it). So yeah, I'm torn. I mostly use my small body to shoot my family because I much prefer a smaller go everywhere body and I LOVE liveview so I don't have a camera pressed to my face. I miss much less.

Tough choice. If the X100 AFs well now though, it's got potential again... What I'm basically thinking though is a E-P4 might be my golden ticket. Remove the EVF from the OM-D, charge ~$300 less and keep the same IQ. I'm sure they'll pull the FPS out of it though, it's nice to have that for sequences while skiing but otherwise I never use it... The question for me now though is do I keep the OM-D for now, or swap it for either a GX1 or X100 until the 16mp sensor comes in another body this summer. I'm pretty sure I'll stick with MFT though just for lens options. NEX is out (I'll keep my 5) because of the lack of lenses and their size/cost of what they've made. You still can't get a 50, and it and the 24 are both massive...

The X100 idea is more for the OM-D review I'm working on. I can most likely borrow one for that, but it'll be interesting to see how it handles with the improved AF/firmware...


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May 08, 2012 03:37 |  #892

jacobsen1 wrote in post #14384144 (external link)
Hrm, I had an X100 last summer. Sold it due to AF issues. Now I have an OM-D and I'm wondering about the X100... I should borrow my buddy's so I can do a head to head with the new firmware to see just how fixed the AF really is.

I would love to hear what you think and feel about these two cameras after you tried the x100 again.

Im stuck between the x100 and OM-D, right now i am leaning towards the x100 as IQ and how the camera looks interest me most. But if the AF is still horrible...

I have read alot about it and it seems people have mixed feelings. Some say the AF has just slight improvements while some say it has vastly improved.


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May 08, 2012 05:21 |  #893

justaf IREMAN wrote in post #14385929 (external link)
No, still there. It's tied in with the ISO tab, it should be included in the ISO screen though.

Thanks, I did the latest firmware update last night (first update Ive done on it) and its way better auto focus wise, loved the camera before and now even more


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May 09, 2012 08:44 |  #894

betebete wrote in post #14397414 (external link)
I would love to hear what you think and feel about these two cameras after you tried the x100 again.

I'm curious as well, a friend has agreed to loan me his X100, so we'll see in the coming weeks. So far I've got a 5Diii, 7D, NEX5, OM-D, GF3 and now a X100 to compare... :p


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May 12, 2012 11:57 |  #895

jacobsen1 wrote in post #14387292 (external link)
One of my issues with the OM-D is it's size, the EVF where an SLR's OVF would be makes it bigger than I'd like -vs- say an X100 or NEX7... I'm just thinking in terms of sticking it in a pocket for skiing or a small pelican for sailing... OMD has the lens choices but that's a slippery slope.

The viewfinder hump hardly makes a huge difference though - the E-M5 with one of the panny pancake lenses on it still fits in my (fairly slim-tailored leather) coat pockets. It's slightly larger than my GF2, but not ridiculously larger. It's still a small camera..


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May 12, 2012 13:15 |  #896

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yeah, I know, but the ONE place that hump makes a difference, both in height AND thickness actually, is when I want to put it in my pelican 1050:
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also, I don't use it all that much (the EVF) so personally, I'd rather either have it where the X100/NEX7 have theirs or I could live with none at all honestly.

I've got a buddy's X100 for 2 weeks though, so I can play with the new firmware and see how it does now. I'm VERY curious to see if the new firmware makes the AF as good as I've heard. The menu fixes also addressed most of the flaws I had.

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May 12, 2012 21:40 |  #897

OK, I have the X100 fired up with whatever the new firmware is. 1.21. The AF is much better than it was when I had mine last summer, I will say that. I thought when you put ISO on the Fn button it now was supposed to have auto ISO listed in the set? It's not there.... It IS in the regular meny screen for ISO, which is great (good enough) but yeah, I thought it'd come up from the Fn button too. I set the GND to the RAW button and it's setup as an on/off switch which is great.

Shooting with it and the OM-D paired with the 20mm 1.7 is pretty interesting. The OM-D seems to pull out better detail. More MP and it's handling noise at least as well, but this is going by the rear screen. The other interesting thing is how the 2 handle WB and exposure/DR. In some shots one will nail WB and the other will blow it, turn 90° and the roles reverse. Very interesting. I actually LIKE the handling of it -vs- the OM-D though, I guess that shows the OM-D really needs the grip. I'll see how I feel after shooting the kids with it with the new AF, that'll make or break it for me.


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May 13, 2012 16:50 |  #898

I'm getting pretty decent results from my X100. It's not got the DR of the 5DmkII but is a very good second camera for days out without the heavy rig and serves as a very good backup camera. Focus speed is just about manageable for me but the really annoying thing is that the battery dies quickly if left so you can wake quickly.

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May 14, 2012 18:54 |  #899

Echo,

Really nice pictures! Do you mind sharing the setting that you used? It it raw of jpeg?

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May 15, 2012 08:26 as a reply to  @ ahendarman's post |  #900

Announced today


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