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Who's making the switch to Nikon / D800

 
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May 20, 2012 15:52 |  #2521

BXPhoto wrote in post #14459847 (external link)
Still missing the 135 for me to have a direct swap.

That made it hard for me to switch, too. I still miss my 135. I haven't used the Nikon 135/2, but indications are that it's much slower focus and less sharp. Although it is capable of fantastic (and flexible) bokeh.


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May 20, 2012 16:04 |  #2522

RE the 135, as mentioned Nikon has a patent for the 135/1.8G and it is the most likely next lens to be updated. They're slowly updating their primes, it appears as if they're going to eventually phase out the D primes.


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May 20, 2012 16:12 |  #2523

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May 20, 2012 16:16 |  #2524

harcosparky wrote in post #14459914 (external link)
Here's my take .....

In the past week I sold off some gear, including ALL of my Canon stuff.

I have a massive chunk of $$$$$$$$ sitting in the bank.

What will I do next?

Well my plan is to take a 6 month hiatus from photography and see what shakes out at the end.

I also took my my preorder deposit on the 1DX because I wanted to take time off.

During that time I have a massive backlog of images to work on and I will get that done.

When the time comes to pick up a camera, right before the holidays I may will leave 35mm behind and go Medium Format!!!!!

I'm really tempted to go digi MF. Although, it's not a practical camera for all situations. :)




  
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May 20, 2012 21:40 |  #2525

Did someone mention digital medium format?? hehe

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May 20, 2012 22:08 |  #2526

They could drop MF digital bodies down to the price of FF bodies and I wouldn't go near one. Great for studio work and setup landscape work and not much else. While it is the ultimate in IQ (and I seriously question these comparisons to the D800/E) it's not for action and not really good for handheld type shots.


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May 20, 2012 22:42 |  #2527

RC of lensrental has tested the d800 and found it to be close to the 40mp mf digitals but still no match for them. not even looking at the 80mp+ ones.


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May 21, 2012 04:16 |  #2528

K6AZ wrote in post #14461214 (external link)
They could drop MF digital bodies down to the price of FF bodies and I wouldn't go near one. Great for studio work and setup landscape work and not much else. While it is the ultimate in IQ (and I seriously question these comparisons to the D800/E) it's not for action and not really good for handheld type shots.

That's funny.


So Medium Format is no good for wedding work?

Wasn't that long ago that only an amateur took a 35mm camera to a wedding.

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May 21, 2012 08:15 |  #2529

Medium format is good for models that you know are going on giant billboards and posters, and for landscapes. That's it. For all intents and purposes, 35mm/full frame is the most versatile format in today's digital world. Sure it USED to be the amateur's format, but digital has changed all that. The amateur format now belongs to APS-C sensors for the soccer mom's of the world.


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May 21, 2012 17:35 |  #2530

harcosparky wrote in post #14462111 (external link)
That's funny.


So Medium Format is no good for wedding work?

Wasn't that long ago that only an amateur took a 35mm camera to a wedding.

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I've never seen MF used at a wedding, never. This goes back nearly thirty years. They're just not designed for that type of work and never have been used that way by people who know what they're doing. If you don't believe me, rent one and report back to us.


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May 21, 2012 17:47 |  #2531

RobDickinson wrote in post #14461363 (external link)
RC of lensrental has tested the d800 and found it to be close to the 40mp mf digitals but still no match for them. not even looking at the 80mp+ ones.

My guess is that one important reason the D800 still is no match (other than sensor size) is that mf digital captures full 16 bit images, while the Nikon is only working at 14 bit color. I'd love to see a DSLR working at a 16 bit level someday soon. I imagine those would be some pretty big raw files though. ;)


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May 21, 2012 19:18 |  #2532

David Arbogast wrote in post #14465199 (external link)
My guess is that one important reason the D800 still is no match (other than sensor size) is that mf digital captures full 16 bit images, while the Nikon is only working at 14 bit color. I'd love to see a DSLR working at a 16 bit level someday soon. I imagine those would be some pretty big raw files though. ;)

Eeck! Imagine that! :lol:;)




  
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May 24, 2012 14:54 |  #2533

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I've never seen MF used at a wedding, never. This goes back nearly thirty years. They're just not designed for that type of work and never have been used that way by people who know what they're doing. If you don't believe me, rent one and report back to us.

Really?? Plenty of wedding pros shot Hasselblads etc. Generally used for more formal style of pre or post wedding group and individual shots, not photojournalistic shots in the church or reception.

This was a shot I grabbed in 2003 with an old Olympus small sensor camera, note the medium format rig of the wedding pro (I was grabbing a few shots of my flower girl daughters and staying out of the way)!

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May 24, 2012 16:34 |  #2534

lungdoc wrote in post #14479774 (external link)
Really?? Plenty of wedding pros shot Hasselblads etc. Generally used for more formal style of pre or post wedding group and individual shots, not photojournalistic shots in the church or reception.

This was a shot I grabbed in 2003 with an old Olympus small sensor camera, note the medium format rig of the wedding pro (I was grabbing a few shots of my flower girl daughters and staying out of the way)!

It's also sitting on a tripod missing all sorts of action. You must have missed the context. MF gear is cumbersome, heavy, and not nearly as fast as 35mm format cameras. Setup shots yes, but I seriously doubt you have any shots of anyone shooting action with one.


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May 24, 2012 21:12 |  #2535

With all due respect you broadly stated you'd never seen MF used at a wedding, whereas in fact it had been used commonly, you did not specify or qualify action in your original post, I did indicate that it wasn't used for action shots in my post. I am not in any way claiming it to be the tool of choice now (or for action then for that matter).


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