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May 18, 2012 12:30 |  #16

Plumtreelad wrote in post #14450681 (external link)
Thanks Lowner. So, Download RAW images to DPP , bulk change to TIFF and send to Photoshop?
Is that it.

When you talk about "bulk change to tiff", that makes me cringe, because I only go into the Photoshop editor if/when I need to, which is certainly not for the "bulk" of my photos. When you convert to a tiff, you end up with a huge tiff file/copy of your photo alongside of the Raw. It's a very inefficient use of resources unless going to Photoshop is truly "value added".

It's up to you and your preferred workflow. But the key consideration is what do you need to do in the Photoshop editor, and what is the most efficient way of doing the things you need to do?

If it was me and I had Photoshop CS5/CS6, I'd look at whether I could streamline my PS tasks, and put them into actions that I could run on a batch of photos using the PS Image Processor and such. If so, I'd look at the Camera Raw processor and Bridge to do batch conversions and to run through the Image Processor, and avoid creating tiff copies altogether, unless I needed to save "project files" for individual images that couldn't be batch-processed. That way I could have output jpegs, which I'd then use and either archive or delete them.

But, know that I am quite devoted to a "Raw workflow". I work in my Raw processor to maximize what I can do with the Raw file, and I don't often need to resort to the Photoshop editor. Sure, a few years ago Raw processors were quite limited in their capabilities and so going into the PS editor was more routine, but today's Raw processors are quite capable of producing a "final product" for what my needs are!

If preparing a photo for a large print, well that has some "special considerations", although I've done plenty of large prints directly from my Raw processor, which, for "serious projects" is Lightroom, but the same could be said for Camera Raw in CS5/6 except the printing process in CSx is different. But even DPP has a Print function that I wouldn't be adverse to using if/when it served the purpose!


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May 18, 2012 13:39 |  #17

I should say that I don't do anything in bulk. I save my RAW originals and work on selected images one by one which then get saved as TIFF files.


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May 21, 2012 00:52 |  #18

tonylong wrote in post #14451222 (external link)
When you talk about "bulk change to tiff", that makes me cringe, because I only go into the Photoshop editor if/when I need to, which is certainly not for the "bulk" of my photos. When you convert to a tiff, you end up with a huge tiff file/copy of your photo alongside of the Raw. It's a very inefficient use of resources unless going to Photoshop is truly "value added".

It's up to you and your preferred workflow. But the key consideration is what do you need to do in the Photoshop editor, and what is the most efficient way of doing the things you need to do?

If it was me and I had Photoshop CS5/CS6, I'd look at whether I could streamline my PS tasks, and put them into actions that I could run on a batch of photos using the PS Image Processor and such. If so, I'd look at the Camera Raw processor and Bridge to do batch conversions and to run through the Image Processor, and avoid creating tiff copies altogether, unless I needed to save "project files" for individual images that couldn't be batch-processed. That way I could have output jpegs, which I'd then use and either archive or delete them.

But, know that I am quite devoted to a "Raw workflow". I work in my Raw processor to maximize what I can do with the Raw file, and I don't often need to resort to the Photoshop editor. Sure, a few years ago Raw processors were quite limited in their capabilities and so going into the PS editor was more routine, but today's Raw processors are quite capable of producing a "final product" for what my needs are!

If preparing a photo for a large print, well that has some "special considerations", although I've done plenty of large prints directly from my Raw processor, which, for "serious projects" is Lightroom, but the same could be said for Camera Raw in CS5/6 except the printing process in CSx is different. But even DPP has a Print function that I wouldn't be adverse to using if/when it served the purpose!

Tonylong, thank you for your advice. By Raw Processor do you mean something like DPP or its equivalent? ALthough I have been taking photographs for a long time, adjustment and editing are well underdeveloped skills and I really am in the foothills! Is your suggestion that I should download in Raw, use DPP for the adjustment, cropping etc and then save as jpegs and only go via CS5 if there is a more sophisticated edit/crop required?


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May 21, 2012 01:35 |  #19

Plumtreelad wrote in post #14461760 (external link)
Tonylong, thank you for your advice. By Raw Processor do you mean something like DPP or its equivalent? ALthough I have been taking photographs for a long time, adjustment and editing are well underdeveloped skills and I really am in the foothills! Is your suggestion that I should download in Raw, use DPP for the adjustment, cropping etc and then save as jpegs and only go via CS5 if there is a more sophisticated edit/crop required?

OK, I'm suggesting that if you are shooting Raw, and unless you need "fancy" processing that only Photoshop can do, keep your images in the Raw format and don't bother with Converting them to tiff to process in Photoshop!


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May 21, 2012 03:03 |  #20

tonylong wrote in post #14461871 (external link)
OK, I'm suggesting that if you are shooting Raw, and unless you need "fancy" processing that only Photoshop can do, keep your images in the Raw format and don't bother with Converting them to tiff to process in Photoshop!

And I'd add, don't bother with converting to jpgs either until and when you need one for a specific purpose, which might be posting on a web site, attaching to an e-mail or having a print made in a lab - all of which would need different sized and maybe differently cropped jpgs. So make your jpg according to the needs of the moment and after you have sent it on its merry way, delete it ruthlessly. As long as you have your Raw with the DPP edits saved inside it and a backup copy somewhere safe, (if the DPP editing has been sufficient) you don't need anything else.


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