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So I finally moved to back button focusing

 
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May 21, 2012 21:54 |  #31

Everything has its purposes. Use what works for given scenario. If you are blasting away, perhaps BBF is best. Perhaps it is. You can be an amateur about it and say its the only way, or be a pro about it an realize your camera has so many useful settings, thats' what you are paying for, use them to your advantage. and use them often.

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May 21, 2012 22:38 as a reply to  @ tete's post |  #32

I like BBF for the most part, but one way it does not work for me is when I am hand holding my ettl flash off camera using an ettl cord. I find it very uncomfortable to use one hand and use my thimb and finger to do two different things. having the shutter focus and lock focus with a half press is so much easier one handed while your other hand is holding a flash.

Any of you guys run in to this situation? I have the 350 500D bidies, so they are smaller and I bet the 60D and 7D are much more massive in your hands and I am thinkng I could do both fingers while holding the camera in one hand.

I use it, but really, I have yet to see exactly what you get with it beyond the normal thing as far as focus goes, you can lock your focus with a half push, so is it a problem to lock focus with a half push?

I just get the feeling that if the cameras originally were BBf with a setting to allow the half pres shutter to lock focus, in some alternate universe this thread would be opposite, saying how convenient and great HPSFC (half press shutter Focus control) is and that you should be using it.

I just know that when using one hand to control the rebels, BBF is much harder than using the shutter half press with one finger.

I use the BBF because it is nice to have exposure lock done with a half press.




  
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May 21, 2012 22:43 |  #33

7D and 60D don't need an ETTL cord for off camera flash. They have the wireless commander. It works very well...


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May 21, 2012 22:44 |  #34

Just tried it with my 5D2 + 50 f/1.8 and it was very inconsistent in AI servo in a dark room. I'll stick with focus tied to shutter button which works correctly every time. ;)




  
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May 21, 2012 23:35 |  #35

Definitely an up when shooting sports. The amount of useful shots I get probably have to do with the fact that I'm on bbf.

Hilarious though when a friend asks to use my gear and when they see their photos are oof, they start complaining and saying somethings wrong with it and that it is too "sophisticated".



  
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May 22, 2012 00:27 as a reply to  @ MrNothing's post |  #36

timnosenzo wrote in post #14466203 (external link)
Jesus. :rolleyes:

I don't know why people act like BBF is some kind of cult or secret society. It's a setting on your camera.

For me, it's just one extra step with no benefit - so I guess that makes me "idiotic"

BBF isnt for every situation as you know. if you shoot well with AF tied to the shutter button then stick with what works. For me BBF allows me to track moving subjects easier than the shutter button

Cesium wrote in post #14466546 (external link)
Just tried it with my 5D2 + 50 f/1.8 and it was very inconsistent in AI servo in a dark room. I'll stick with focus tied to shutter button which works correctly every time. ;)

the 5d2 is not the best at AF, it has the same AF as the original 5d which is pretty horrible by todays standards, but BBF should not change the accuracy of the AF negatively. if it does, you are probably doing it wrong. AI servo on the 5d2 isnt very good either from my experience. If you use one shot most of the time and it works, stick with it for sure.



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May 22, 2012 00:29 |  #37

I guess Jake still has his keys... :lol:


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May 22, 2012 00:39 |  #38

Can the 600D do it? I don't remember seeing a setting for it and I'd like to give it a go.




  
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May 22, 2012 00:58 |  #39

stumbows wrote in post #14466928 (external link)
Can the 600D do it? I don't remember seeing a setting for it and I'd like to give it a go.

Try it.

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May 22, 2012 01:02 |  #40

After reading about back-button focusing for the last several years, I have yet to try it. Guess I should give it a whirl...

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May 22, 2012 02:24 |  #41

I gotta say that using Back-button focusing has been a plus for me. And it makes it easier to focus and recompose so that makes it worthwhile.


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May 22, 2012 09:38 |  #42

guitarjeff wrote in post #14466531 (external link)
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Any of you guys run in to this situation? I have the 350 500D bidies, so they are smaller and I bet the 60D and 7D are much more massive in your hands and I am thinking I could do both fingers while holding the camera in one hand..........

I just tried one handed operation of BBF on my 7D with the 580 EX II on top - a pretty heavy combo. Not a problem. I don't know if it has to do with the larger size of the 7D though. I also used BBF on my old Rebel XSi and I never had a problem there either. YMMV.


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May 22, 2012 09:55 |  #43

timnosenzo wrote in post #14466203 (external link)
Jesus. :rolleyes:

I don't know why people act like BBF is some kind of cult or secret society. It's a setting on your camera.

For me, it's just one extra step with no benefit - so I guess that makes me "idiotic"

Yes it is a shame that people are so loyal to doing something one way that anyone that does something differently must be called a derogatory name... Chalk me up as idiotic as well as I never found bbf useful for my type of shooting. But I am glad that Canon was kind enough to offer it for those that find it helpful. (See that wasn't that hard to say!)




  
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May 22, 2012 10:02 |  #44

Razeus wrote in post #14464532 (external link)
There are certain signs that a photography grows into as he gets more experience:

1) Uses full-frame sensor (because of the better image quality)

2) Uses primes (cheaper, lighter, smaller, faster and merely just tools for composing - lenses should cost more than $1k quite frankly)

3) Uses back button focusing (a sign that one has learned his camera and does what works for him, not doesn't rely on green box or default settings - no room for lazy photogs who can't be bothered to dive into their own menu settings).

4) Exposing manually.

5) Posts patronising bollox on forums and acts like he invented photography

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May 22, 2012 10:18 |  #45

I am trying to remember to use it. I read that when the shutter button is pressed it momentarily stops focussing.... Canon have neither confirmed or denied this happens....so it most likely does. BBF is the way.


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