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May 23, 2012 00:16 |  #1

I had the chance to do some extensive shooting over the weekend with the Sigma 150-500mm and this is my observation.

- Most of the shot I took were between 400-500mm.
- F8 is the way to go. This should not be a problem for more modern camera. Bump the ISO.
- OS is extremely usable. I handheld every single shot
- AF can be slow at time.
- The zoom ring is a little rough

As I was walking looking for birds at the local sanctuary, I met lots of birders/photographer. The 100-400L was really the most common lens uses. It was everywhere. People stop me by and ask me what I was carrying. All of them said the same thing : I would kill right now for an extra 100mm, it must be nice.

I have 2 more days to decide If I keep the Sigma or fork more dollars and trade it for an 100-400L. After reading numerous forum threads, I am leaning toward keeping the Sigma. I got some more then acceptable quality image and a good experience overall. This is surprising as my first experience with the 120-400 was terrible (I must of got a bad copy).

At the end of the day, photography is more about composition and framing then anything else. As I was showing my photos around the office, they were talking about the subject not about sharpness from corner to corner. It easy to forget when you get caught up in the internet propaganda.


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May 23, 2012 09:10 |  #2

Yupe. No lens is long enough for birds. My Sigmonster is not even long enough half the time. :lol:
The 150-500mm vs 100-400L, IMHO, comes down to shooting wide open and the extra 100mm. As you already mentioned, with the latest technology, high ISO is no longer a big problem. ISO800 is the new ISO100! :D


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May 23, 2012 09:44 |  #3

cfcRebel wrote in post #14473089 (external link)
Yupe. No lens is long enough for birds. My Sigmonster is not even long enough half the time. :lol:
The 150-500mm vs 100-400L, IMHO, comes down to shooting wide open and the extra 100mm. As you already mentioned, with the latest technology, high ISO is no longer a big problem. ISO800 is the new ISO100! :D

and I was shooting at 400 ISO all day and had plenty of light.The OS gives you 4 stop so my F8 is more like an F4 after all.


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May 23, 2012 14:01 |  #4

When I went from a 7D and 5D2 combo to a 5D3 I had to choose between the Sigma 150-500 OS and Canon 100-400 L. After much testing I ended up keeping the Sigma and I'm more than happy with my choice. I bought my Sigma in january and have only recently (with the better weather) started shooting birds, but I've been impressed by the Sigma immensely.

Taken at 1/800, ISO 1000 wide open at f6.3 @ 500mm. It's a Jpeg SOOC and just cropped.

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May 23, 2012 16:21 as a reply to  @ modchild's post |  #5

IMHO the only thing the 100-400L has on the Sigma is it is physically smaller, so it is easier to transport. That is it. If you have a good copy of the Sigma, it is just as sharp as the Canon.


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May 23, 2012 16:45 |  #6

^ My God! That bird must be twelve feet tall!

How about the Sigma 50-500? It's more money but is supposed to be a hair better and has a focal range that lets you keep it on your camera most of the time. Of course it would make for a huge walk-around lens.

This isn't the greatest photo, shooting into the sun and at quite a distance, but it's fun to get a decent shot when everyone else is getting nothing but tiny black dots out at sea. The hardest part was running back to the camper and switching lenses before the whales swam on by.


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Replacing my Canon 7D, Tokina 12-24mm, Canon 17-55mm, Sigma 30mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.4, and 150-500mm with a Panasonic Lumix FZ1000. I still have the 17-55 and the 30 available for sale.

  
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May 23, 2012 16:49 |  #7

fogboundturtle wrote in post #14471997 (external link)
I had the chance to do some extensive shooting over the weekend with the Sigma 150-500mm and this is my observation.

- Most of the shot I took were between 400-500mm.
- F8 is the way to go. This should not be a problem for more modern camera. Bump the ISO.
- OS is extremely usable. I handheld every single shot
- AF can be slow at time.
- The zoom ring is a little rough

As I was walking looking for birds at the local sanctuary, I met lots of birders/photographer. The 100-400L was really the most common lens uses. It was everywhere. People stop me by and ask me what I was carrying. All of them said the same thing : I would kill right now for an extra 100mm, it must be nice.

I have 2 more days to decide If I keep the Sigma or fork more dollars and trade it for an 100-400L. After reading numerous forum threads, I am leaning toward keeping the Sigma. I got some more then acceptable quality image and a good experience overall. This is surprising as my first experience with the 120-400 was terrible (I must of got a bad copy).

At the end of the day, photography is more about composition and framing then anything else. As I was showing my photos around the office, they were talking about the subject not about sharpness from corner to corner. It easy to forget when you get caught up in the internet propaganda.

So with what you know now, if you had the chance to do it over again would you go with the Sigma? My wife really wants this lens for her d300 and I just want to make sure it is a good lens before I spend the money for it.




  
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May 23, 2012 22:19 as a reply to  @ the flying moose's post |  #8

Moose, you asked fogboundturtle, but I'll answer based on me.

If I was shooting mainly birds, yes I would get it again. Though obviously I would love a long IS prime (in say the 500 range) instead. I can't afford that at the moment.

If just a general wildlife lens, I'd probably go with the Canon!? Not because I think it is better, because I think they are real close (unless you get a dud) in IQ. It is the length. What I mean by length is the 150-500's physical length - not zoom length. I also have no problem with the weight. The length is just a bit too long to comfortably pack into anything other than a backpack. I prefer a belt pack with a zoom case. For my zoom case the Sigma will not fit mounted, the Canon will. That is the only reason, so if I could find a zoom bag that would comfortably fit the Sigma mounted, this paragraph would be moot.

By the way, IMO the smaller zooms (size and zoom - but to 400mm) by Sigma don't seem as good in IQ to these two lenses.

Regardless, I do not regret the 150-500.


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May 23, 2012 22:30 as a reply to  @ jimewall's post |  #9

I love my Sigma. I have not used the Canon, but in the end there is a cost factor, and I have a hard time believing that the additional funds, would yield significantly different results... at least in this case. Sure the Prime might be better, but keeping it as close to an apples to apples comparison.

Keep the Sigma, enjoy it.


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May 23, 2012 22:32 |  #10

jimewall wrote in post #14476579 (external link)
Moose, you asked fogboundturtle, but I'll answer based on me.

If I was shooting mainly birds, yes I would get it again. Though obviously I would love a long IS prime (in say the 500 range) instead. I can't afford that at the moment.

If just a general wildlife lens, I'd probably go with the Canon!? Not because I think it is better, because I think they are real close (unless you get a dud) in IQ. It is the length. What I mean by length is the 150-500's physical length - not zoom length. I also have no problem with the weight. The length is just a bit too long to comfortably pack into anything other than a backpack. I prefer a belt pack with a zoom case. For my zoom case the Sigma will not fit mounted, the Canon will. That is the only reason, so if I could find a zoom bag that would comfortably fit the Sigma mounted, this paragraph would be moot.

By the way, IMO the smaller zooms (size and zoom - but to 400mm) by Sigma don't seem as good in IQ to these two lenses.

Regardless, I do not regret the 150-500.

Thanks for your reply. We aren't out there all day with the cameras so weight isn't really an issue. She loves taking pictures of birds and such and borrows my sisters 70-300 and loves the added reach. Currently, she only has a 50mm and a 37mm lens so a nice zoom lens to give her some reach is a must have.




  
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May 23, 2012 22:33 |  #11

boufa wrote in post #14476630 (external link)
I love my Sigma. I have not used the Canon, but in the end there is a cost factor, and I have a hard time believing that the additional funds, would yield significantly different results... at least in this case. Sure the Prime might be better, but keeping it as close to an apples to apples comparison.

Keep the Sigma, enjoy it.

Yes, she is very beginner and aside from the fact she shoots with Nikon, I doubt she would be able to see or need the added benefit that an L lens would provide.




  
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May 23, 2012 23:07 |  #12

the flying moose wrote in post #14475168 (external link)
So with what you know now, if you had the chance to do it over again would you go with the Sigma? My wife really wants this lens for her d300 and I just want to make sure it is a good lens before I spend the money for it.

I am keeping it. The only thing I would go for is a prime lens. I miss that 300mm F4 I used to have. It was a killer lens. I really like the extra reach. I've already posted some photos of what I did over the weekend and the result was very pleasing.


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May 23, 2012 23:25 |  #13

the flying moose wrote in post #14476637 (external link)
Yes, she is very beginner and aside from the fact she shoots with Nikon, I doubt she would be able to see or need the added benefit that an L lens would provide.

Does she pump iron? The Bigmos is a big-@ss and heavy lens. Even for me at ~225lbs when i had it... an hour of holding it was more than enough. ;)


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May 23, 2012 23:35 |  #14

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Does she pump iron? The Bigmos is a big-@ss and heavy lens. Even for me at ~225lbs when i had it... an hour of holding it was more than enough. ;)

More than likely knowing her she will see that as a benefit. She has tried it at our local store and nearly every time she goes there she will try. I am more worried about the quality of the lens vs the weight and size.




  
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May 23, 2012 23:41 |  #15

I had to make the choice also, was about to purchase the Sig when a local put a 100-400 on craigs for the same price. It was mint so I got it instead. I am very happy with it but I'll always want to take the Sig for a spin.

As for the weight, my Black Rapid arrived today, put it on the canon and what a relief. I would imagin a shoulder strap would do the same for the Sig.




  
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