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May 24, 2012 14:08 |  #1

I am in the start up years of my photography business, i have done weddings, seniors, newborn, etc... i have a canon 40D body and kit lenses 18-55, and 55-250. also i have a 50mm. I was told the kit lenses are not the best quality. I guess now i feel like i am missing something. what should i add to my bag?:confused:




  
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May 24, 2012 14:11 |  #2

An off-camera(shoe mounted) flash, such as the 430EX II or 580EX II. Learn how to bounce your flash.


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May 24, 2012 14:12 |  #3

A good f/2.8 zoom with IS would be ideal


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May 24, 2012 14:13 |  #4

Maybe a 85mm? Or a fast wide angle?

I would think you would have an idea with all the shoots you have done already, no?

What kind of picture do you want to do that you feel your lenses can't do?




  
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May 24, 2012 14:14 |  #5

Because you were told that your kit lenses were not the best quality (and apparently didn't
already know that yourself) I would say the next best step is just to learn more about what
is available and the tradeoffs versus performance and cost.




  
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May 24, 2012 14:18 |  #6

If you intend to do any more weddings, a second body, a second flash (assuming you have one). Then upgrade your lenses in order of need.




  
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May 24, 2012 15:26 |  #7

I have a few flashes the 580 and 2 old flashers talking like from the 80s. I also have a rebel body as a backup. i was not aware at the time that the kit lenses were not best quality. i feel i need a wide angle or a micro but i know i have that already in the crop lenses. so i am just seeing if you could spend someone money what would you add to the bag?




  
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May 24, 2012 15:29 |  #8

17-55 2.8 IS for wedding or event work.




  
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May 24, 2012 15:33 |  #9

You are missing investment.

If you are going to start a business and to provide professional service, you need to invest at least a good couple thousands in professional gear and hire professional assistants.

If money is a problem, there shall always be loan or "investors".

However technically speaking,
You are missing camera bodies, f2.8 zooms, low light primes, and flashes. Then there's also offcamera strobe light, modifiers, reflectors, and bunch of other accessories to mess with lighting.

You probably should know all of these before you start a business.


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May 24, 2012 15:34 |  #10

Are your customers happy? What would make your photos better? Don't get something just because it's "better quality", get something that will improve your photos and result in more/ happier customers.


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May 24, 2012 15:36 |  #11

calvinjhfeng wrote in post #14479985 (external link)
You are missing investment.

If you are going to start a business and to provide professional service, you need to invest at least a good couple thousands in professional gear and hire professional assistants.

If money is a problem, there shall always be loan or "investors".

However technically speaking,
You are missing camera bodies, f2.8 zooms, low light primes, and flashes. Then there's also offcamera strobe light, modifiers, reflectors, and bunch of other accessories to mess with lighting.

You probably should know all of these before you start a business.


This is exactly what you don't want to do... spend lots and lots of money on things you don't know you're missing. I'd take a good photographer with limited equipment over some goober with thousands of dollars worth of equipment that doesn't know what he's doing.


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May 24, 2012 15:40 |  #12

koufax80 wrote in post #14480006 (external link)
This is exactly what you don't want to do... spend lots and lots of money on things you don't know you're missing. I'd take a good photographer with limited equipment over some goober with thousands of dollars worth of equipment that doesn't know what he's doing.

Then the person isn't professional and should not consider it a business until he/she knows the stuff.


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May 24, 2012 15:49 |  #13

calvinjhfeng wrote in post #14480032 (external link)
Then the person isn't professional and should not consider it a business until he/she knows the stuff.

Professional means you get paid to do something. It doesn't imply you're an "expert".


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May 24, 2012 16:01 |  #14

koufax80 wrote in post #14480088 (external link)
Professional means you get paid to do something. It doesn't imply you're an "expert".

According to webster, it does: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary​/professional+ (external link)

Of the 3 definitions, only one mentions money. But hey, we will never agree.

Did I tell you about the state fair I went o last year. There was a guy in a booth there with snakes. For $5 you could go in and hold the snake. He also had a light and a backdrop (set up by a friend, I'm sure), a P&S camera and a printer. For another $10, his son would take your picture and give you a print. In the 10 minutes I was there, I think the kid sold 15 pictures (that's $150). I bet he sold well over $1500 worth of pictures a day. They were awful, he missed the moment consistently, he was blowing the composition completely, cutting off limbs, etc... but he was, by the "if you get paid" definition, a professional photographer. My guess is that he was 10 years old, I doubt he would even understand the question "What f/stop are you using?"


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May 24, 2012 16:06 |  #15

hairy_moth wrote in post #14480154 (external link)
According to webster, it does: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary​/professional+ (external link)

Of the 3 definitions, only one mentions money. But hey, we will never agree.

Did I tell you about the state fair I went o last year. There was a guy in a booth there with snakes. For $5 you could go in and hold the snake. He also had a light and a backdrop (set up by a friend, I'm sure), a P&S camera and a printer. For another $10, his son would take your picture and give you a print. In the 10 minutes I was there, I think the kid sold 15 pictures (that's $150). I bet he sold well over $1500 worth of pictures a day. They were awful, he missed the moment consistently, he was blowing the composition completely, cutting off limbs, etc... but he was, by the "if you get paid" definition, a professional photographer. My guess is that he was 10 years old, I doubt he would even understand the question "What f/stop are you using?"

Well, none of the definitions mention spending a lot of money on equipment...

Are you saying since he was bad and young he couldn't be a professional? What does that make Justin Beiber?


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