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Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 Di VC USD Announced!!! Stabilized 24-70!

 
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May 24, 2012 03:41 |  #1726

kin2son wrote in post #14477273 (external link)
This is just going to be like any other Tamron lens. rrp * 40% off = Real street price.

I'd wish you're right, but when the Canon 24-70i is out of stock and the 24-70ii at $2000+ is the only new option, the Tamron isn't just another 3rd party lens but might very well stay above $1000.




  
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May 24, 2012 04:35 |  #1727

Marsu42 wrote in post #14477337 (external link)
I'd wish you're right, but when the Canon 24-70i is out of stock and the 24-70ii at $2000+ is the only new option, the Tamron isn't just another 3rd party lens but might very well stay above $1000.

The Sigma 24-70 2.8 retails for about $825-$875. I can see the Tamron staying a fair bit above that, provided the Sigma price doesn't drop.


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May 24, 2012 13:10 |  #1728

Owain Glyndwr wrote in post #14477262 (external link)
the price is down to €1,050 in Germany now. If it drops another €50-100 I might be forced to buy it.

1050 euro is 1315 usd. I'm confused here.


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May 24, 2012 13:51 |  #1729

c2thew wrote in post #14479230 (external link)
1050 euro is 1315 usd. I'm confused here.

yep, prices are higher here in Germany. We have 20% value added tax. but we also get 2 years warranty.


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May 24, 2012 14:40 |  #1730

Owain Glyndwr wrote in post #14479447 (external link)
yep, prices are higher here in Germany. We have 20% value added tax. but we also get 2 years warranty.

We get 6 years in the US on Tamron products so..... Yeah.


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May 24, 2012 15:15 |  #1731

arentol wrote in post #14479701 (external link)
We get 6 years in the US on Tamron products so..... Yeah.

There's a major difference between legal warranty in Germany (2 years, the manufacturer has to prove it's your fault) vs. extended warranty freely given (Tamron 6 years, you have to prove the lens broke down w/o you doing anything wrong). In Germany, there are even two words for it, "Gewährleistung" vs. "Garantie".

But to rely on a lens' warranty at all seems dicy to me anyway: If a lens breaks, it's very probably the user broke it (impact, water = corrosion, sand/dust), none of which is covered. So I'd really like to know how many lenses are repaired on warranty at all, I guess it's a small number.

edit: I in fact just had this situation with a lens - I got the aperture repaired, had 1 year warranty on the repair, it broke again even after I treated it like a raw egg. They say it was an impact, and I can hardly disprove that, can I? And getting an expertise and sue them on a 250€ (used price) lens won't happen, and of course the repair shop knows that. That's what I think of when I hear "Tamron 6 year warranty" and what it might be good for.




  
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May 24, 2012 18:02 |  #1732

Marsu42 wrote in post #14479883 (external link)
That's what I think of when I hear "Tamron 6 year warranty" and what it might be good for.

True, but hopefully you'll at least be able to get your lens calibrated for free during that time if needed :)


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May 24, 2012 18:30 |  #1733

Posting this here as well as the thread I created:

http://www.sunthingpro​ductions.com/blog/?p=7​2 (external link)


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May 24, 2012 18:34 |  #1734

Sunthing Productions wrote in post #14480737 (external link)
Posting this here as well as the thread I created:

http://www.sunthingpro​ductions.com/blog/?p=7​2 (external link)

Thanks. As I've said, there is no doubt to me that the Tamron is better than the Canon MkI.

But the real competition is the Tamron vs. Canon MkII.

I just want to see if/how much the Canon is worth its $2300 price without IS. As soon as I read that it is on-par with the Tamron, I will buy the Tamron...again. But I would hate to invest $1300 in the Tamron only to find out that $1000 more would have bought me a zoomable 24-70 prime lens.


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May 24, 2012 18:42 |  #1735

Sunthing Productions wrote in post #14480737 (external link)
Posting this here as well as the thread I created:

http://www.sunthingpro​ductions.com/blog/?p=7​2 (external link)

how did you get one of those charts? expensive?

I got the same results with my copy of the 24-70L using the brick wall method, but obviously my test wasnt extensive or controlled as yours.


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May 24, 2012 18:47 |  #1736

bomzai wrote in post #14480639 (external link)
True, but hopefully you'll at least be able to get your lens calibrated for free during that time if needed :)

You're serious? If you are, I doubt Tamron will calibrate your lens for free - either you return it when you buy it (saving Tamron an extended, expensive quality control) or it's your lens with all possible faults that aren't covered by warranty.




  
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May 24, 2012 18:50 |  #1737

SchnellerGT wrote in post #14480753 (external link)
Thanks. As I've said, there is no doubt to me that the Tamron is better than the Canon MkI.

But the real competition is the Tamron vs. Canon MkII.

I just want to see if/how much the Canon is worth its $2300 price without IS. As soon as I read that it is on-par with the Tamron, I will buy the Tamron...again. But I would hate to invest $1300 in the Tamron only to find out that $1000 more would have bought me a zoomable 24-70 prime lens.

it depends how much sharper the 24-70 MK2 will be. the 70-200 mk2 compared with the 70-200 mk1 produced a dramatic difference because the 70-200 mk1 was kind of soft to start with. I dont think the original brick will have as a dramatic effect vs the mk2.

Secondly, with the use of VC vs Non VC, how sharp will shots be in real world useage? the 70-200MK2 has a really good stabilized system to help eliminate blur, but the 24-70mk2 wont have that system.

In either case, a new lens release is always fun to see.


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May 24, 2012 18:51 |  #1738

Marsu42 wrote in post #14480788 (external link)
You're serious? If you are, I doubt Tamron will calibrate your lens for free - either you return it when you buy it (saving Tamron an extended, expensive quality control) or it's your lens with all possible faults that aren't covered by warranty.

I had my old tamron calibrated free two years after buying it. Focus was tad off on my crop and I just lived with it for a long time.


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May 24, 2012 18:54 |  #1739

Charlie wrote in post #14480769 (external link)
how did you get one of those charts? expensive?

I got the same results with my copy of the 24-70L using the brick wall method, but obviously my test wasnt extensive or controlled as yours.

Download a printable version which is a close copy of the actual ISO chart.

http://www.graphics.co​rnell.edu/~westin/misc​/res-chart.html (external link)


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May 24, 2012 18:54 |  #1740

Tamron will calibrate lenses free under warranty without any hassle.


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