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How BAD is it to get an L lens (135mm) on a crop body?

 
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May 25, 2012 02:08 |  #61

Pardon the vulgarity, but back in my Army days, I would have replied:

"Because F you. That's why".

Your photos are cleary very nice.

Another saying I like to use is:

"if it's stupid, and it works, it's not stupid".

I used to get the same kind of questions when I was shooting with my 70-200 f2.8 on my little rebel XT. When they saw the photos, they stopped asking stupid questions.

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May 26, 2012 00:11 |  #62

You know, this sort of topic is always fun to read. If you have a body, and a lens that gets results, then you have what you need. You don’t need to go into debt just to satisfy someone else’s social "Herd" mentality. From our past, with less high tech equipment, world renowned photographers have made the shots that inspire us to this day. However did they do it without a full frame camera??? Honestly, would you dare tell Ansel Adams, Robert Capa, or Dorothea Lange that they needed to use a different body? I don’t think so. I can tell you that you are shooting with higher quality equipment right now than they had...Thats my soap box on this topic, hope you dont mind my comment


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May 28, 2012 02:39 |  #63

I have the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II on my T3i and could give 2 (censored) what people think.
I find it funny when people say to me, wow, nice camera. No..... nice lens, but thank you. :)


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May 28, 2012 09:41 |  #64

I want one bad! It is my next piece of gear on the list with the 600ex. It will be on my 7D. There are quite a few times that my 85mm is not enough.


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May 28, 2012 10:46 |  #65

As some others have implied, it's not so much the "crop" body as the Rebel body that throws them. The 7D and one of the 1D bodies are also crop bodies... But IMO if it works for you (and it obviously does), just tell them that you are just proving the rule that the lens and the photographer makes much more difference than the body.


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May 28, 2012 10:58 |  #66

Those are terrible pics! You should just give that lens to me :)

j/k they're great. I had a few L lenses back when I had my T2i.. you really only need to switch over to a xxD or xD body when you feel like you need the extra features. After all, the 7D and 60D have the same sensor as your 600D..


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May 28, 2012 10:58 |  #67

In my as always humble option owning a 135L is actually more important if you have a crop camera.

Because it is the only affordable long lens with f/2.0. It's the only way to get low light event shots that aren't wide. If anything is moving in low light this is your only way to go.

Not to mention much of the FF crowd names the 200mm f/2.0 as their holy grail lens. Pretty much the same (on a different price and quality level of course) as a 135L on a crop.

Having said this, all of this is still no excuse for the total absence of low-noise crop sensor cameras. Come on Canon.


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May 28, 2012 11:10 |  #68

Roamingbull wrote in post #14486283 (external link)
From our past, with less high tech equipment, world renowned photographers have made the shots that inspire us to this day. However did they do it without a full frame camera??? Honestly, would you dare tell Ansel Adams, Robert Capa, or Dorothea Lange that they needed to use a different body? I don’t think so. I can tell you that you are shooting with higher quality equipment right now than they had...

Wouldn't they have been using at least FF (35mm) and larger formats?

Use what you have, don't care what anyone else thinks, and enjoy.


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May 28, 2012 11:10 |  #69

uOpt wrote in post #14495497 (external link)
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Having said this, all of this is still no excuse for the total absence of low-noise crop sensor cameras. Come on Canon.

At any given level of sensor technology, number of pixels and post-processing, a larger sensor will ALWAYS have lower noise, because the sensor elements are physically larger. If you want the same level on noise on a smaller sensor, you will have to reduce the number of pixels proportionally to the area of the sensor, and you know that ain't going to happen...


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May 28, 2012 11:31 |  #70

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Here's the thing, I got a 135mm f/2 L for my 600D and anyone who hears about it says "Holy crap, you got that on a crop body?" - I'm getting good shots out of it but still they're saying "Why?"

That tells a lot about peoples assumptions.

"Whatever works" is a good combination.

If you do want the results of a 135 mm lens as captured with your specific camera, then the 135L is a top choice. You could say that since the 600D don't capture the full image circle of the 135L, you could get away with a cheaper lens without crying over loss of sharpness in the corners. But if you also want f/2, then you obviously need to buy a fast enough lens.

While the world have seen better cameras than the 600D, it is still a very capable camera.

How about just asking them what camera they use with their 135L. If they haven't a 135L, you could ask if they don't have any good lenses ;)


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May 28, 2012 12:24 as a reply to  @ post 14473423 |  #71

That question is the kind that ignorant people ask when they want to sound smart. If it works for you, then use it. Different lenses fit different people better. That's the whole point of interchangeable lenses.


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May 28, 2012 12:46 |  #72

I had bought 135L initially for 1000D. I didn't mind the crop factor/ standing farther thing, but the serious limitation was the subpar AF system of 1000D: it simply wasn't built to meet such fast lens requirements. Specifically, I was getting front or back focus issue. Also, the fact that only the central AF censor was of "F2.8" type, the rest being of "F5.6" type (meaning only the central point could be used when shooting with 135L wide open) wasn't helpful either.

My next camera (50D), though still being a crop, is a much better match to 135L capabilities: it has MA (actually, it's not really needed: I set it to -1 for the best results - so obviously 50D was built to better standards than 1000D), all AF censors are usable (of F2.8 type), and camera's faster AF is a good match to the very fast AF of 135L.


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May 28, 2012 13:10 |  #73

Moin wrote in post #14473232 (external link)
Here's the thing, I got a 135mm f/2 L for my 600D and anyone who hears about it says "Holy crap, you got that on a crop body?" - I'm getting good shots out of it but still they're saying "Why?"

I use a 70-200mm f/4 IS on a 60D, and I'm not saving up for a FF camera.

A FF camera will not really make my pictures better for what I do, and I frequently need to shoot at 200mm (aka 320mm). A FF will rob me of that reach. If I were on FF, I would need to use a 70-300mm, 100-400mm, or an extender, all of which rob me of a stop. I need that light.

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May 28, 2012 13:23 |  #74

600d? i got a 400d and a 70-200 f2.8 IS mk2. am i stupid too?


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May 28, 2012 13:25 |  #75

I know a guy 1d with all l glass lenses and can't take a picture to save his life.....snubs his nose at me because some told him my work is better than his... I have a t1 love it because it is light weight...


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