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May 28, 2012 11:28 |  #1

I am kind of in a pitch. Have been trying very hard to better myself in street photography, even took in some abstract architecture, changed my gear (went full frame), bought a film camera, watched hundreds of videos from lighting techniques to inspirational documentaries about Sally Mann and other great photographers, but it would seem i have hit a huge wall which i just can't seem to overcome. All my late work looks the same, though i tried different angles, but still everything blends in. I even emailed a couple of wedding photogs in offer to be a second shooter (thought that change of style might help)...Do you have any suggestions, cause i am lost. Not even 1x.com helps, it even makes i worse.

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May 28, 2012 12:02 |  #2

You might start by fixing the links in your signature. :)


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May 28, 2012 12:05 |  #3

At the risk of sounding like a jerk. Practice. See the object in your minds eye of what you want the finished picture to be and start playing with camera settings. Hard to generalize styles since each photog has their own artistic bend to their photos. Just keep on shooting.


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May 28, 2012 12:11 |  #4

Go take a picture of something you're really passionate about.


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May 28, 2012 12:29 |  #5

Karl C wrote in post #14495751 (external link)
You might start by fixing the links in your signature. :)

Good point, never realised their not working :D

Drugs, alcohol..not sure about the former, but the latter was tried :D

Practice makes perfect...Taking pictures of something you are passionate about? Street is my passion...


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May 28, 2012 12:30 |  #6

windpig wrote in post #14495798 (external link)
I would, but she won't take her cloths off:cool:

best reply ever.

On topic: I love reading/browsing the show your setup thread

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=984150


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May 28, 2012 12:33 as a reply to  @ palaima's post |  #7

Go to another town/city, etc... and shoot there. This time take a different look at what you used to see. I have not seen your images, but try to get closer. That either means by your feet or a longer lens.
An old saying is, "if you think you are close enough, get closer."

I just looked at your images, and they are not bad.
I definitely would try closer.
Your processing is not bad, but maybe you can change it up some, experiment and see if that helps.
Try something different.
Good luck!


just a few of my thoughts...
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May 28, 2012 13:00 as a reply to  @ pbelarge's post |  #8

Do a 365 where you shoot something everyday.

I used to hate landscape shooting of any kind, now I rather enjoy it along with many other forms of shooting things I never used to enjoy.

I could never be bothered shooting flowers or buildings, but once I strated 365ing, it helped me see things I never saw right in my own yard, let alone the neighbourhood.


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May 28, 2012 14:39 |  #9

palaima wrote in post #14495840 (external link)
Street is my passion...

Learn from others...

Jill Freedman (external link)

Garry Winogrand (external link)

Bruce Davidson (external link)

Henri Cartier-Bresson (external link)

Joel Meyerowitz

Watch these two YouTube videos from Garry Winogrand:

Garry Winogrand Part 1 (external link)
Garry Winogrand Part 2 (external link)


Credit to airfrogusmc for helping me when I had questions about photography a while back and providing direction to read about Cartier-Bresson, Davidson, Winogrand, and Meyerowitz.


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May 28, 2012 16:39 |  #10

Pierre - thanks, i appreciate your input.
Karl, thanks a million, i haven't seen those two videos, though i am familiar with the work of the greats. Guess the only thing that is left is analyse and practise.


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May 29, 2012 10:55 |  #11

Shoot something that is out of your comfort zone. Shoot something that's too difficult for you, where you know you may get bad results because you haven't done it before... an auto race, or a low-light stage performance, or food, or insects.

You'll likely learn something that you can take back to the genres about which you are passionate. Or, you might even find a new passion.


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May 29, 2012 12:33 |  #12

Thanks guys for the input. I shall try, harder this time.


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May 29, 2012 16:23 |  #13

palaima wrote in post #14495629 (external link)
I am kind of in a pitch. Have been trying very hard to better myself in street photography, even took in some abstract architecture, changed my gear (went full frame), bought a film camera, watched hundreds of videos from lighting techniques to inspirational documentaries about Sally Mann and other great photographers, but it would seem i have hit a huge wall which i just can't seem to overcome. All my late work looks the same, though i tried different angles, but still everything blends in. I even emailed a couple of wedding photogs in offer to be a second shooter (thought that change of style might help)...Do you have any suggestions, cause i am lost. Not even 1x.com helps, it even makes i worse.

Regards,
Paulius

Hey, I also enjoy street photography! And, I checked out your 500px, you've got some good stuff in there.

As to helpful suggestions, well, I'm not a pro, and it's not a "specialty", and I don't consider myself as "good", so I can't pass on any expert advice!

But when I get out on the city streets, I do like to "look", to try to "visualize" compositions that have some "meaning" or communicate something, or have some visual "impact" the goes beyond the "Ho humm, same ol' city streets".

Anyway, you're not alone!

You can see some of my stuff that hasn't to me been pure garbage:

http://www.pbase.com/t​onylong/cities (external link)


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May 29, 2012 19:38 |  #14

If you really want to improve...Shoot as if every shot taken costs you $10.
If you really want to improve, pretend you are taking a class and the instructor will count every bad shot taken against the number of good shots taken (and the shot names will indicate any shots that you deleted!).

Digital spray and pray, and the inexpensiveness of the 'every shot is free', that digital puts into our heads, does not help to make us discriminate our shots to make every one count!

In the days of film, every 4x5" sheet film shot was equivalent in price to 15.6 shots of 135 film, so you learned to make every shot count. And that price differential applied to film processing expense, too.


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May 29, 2012 22:01 |  #15

I have a love/hate relationship with street photography...I love it in general, but I never ever get the opportunity to go all out since I'm always with my wife when we go to the city, which brings the hate part...

Anyway I think some of your shots are pretty well taken...I think looking through some of the past greats and even the current street photogs is great inspiration...You could also start assignments and themes. Maybe one day you could go out and just emphasize on negative space. Then next time movement. Next time shadows. Another day you could just a two or three basic composition principles. Another day could be interesting stranger portraits, another could be engaging candids, etc etc... Sometimes it's about taking risk andn confidence, but that's on your own discretion. Sometimes the most interesting areas/people in the city are not the safest places to be, but has a lot of potential for great street photos...


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