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jpfiff
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Jun 03, 2012 11:22 |  #1

Hello... I have been recently been posting over at the camera body sections when I was trying to decide between the 60D vs 7D. I've now decided to get the 60D.

I think I want to order through the CLP and figure this would be a good time to get a new lens because I can also get another 20% a refurb lens when I buy a refurb body, so instead of paying a few extra hundred dollars in 6mos for a new lens, it makes sense to get one now.

Currenly I have an XTI with the kit lens 18-55 (non IS, it's an older model) and the canon 50 1.4 and a quantaray 70-300 tele-macro lens (came with my camera kit 5 yrs ago), 430 EXII flash. I don't use the flash much as I prefer to use natural light when possible and adjust camera settings to avoid the flash.

I'm still in the beginning stages of learning manual, and that's all I shoot these days. What I shoot is my kids (indoors and poorly lit house, and outside), at school events (possible future plays, etc), simple sports (child aged baseball, soccer games), family bday/holiday gatherings, travel (ie Disney, ocean, lake, camping), I'd like to get alittle landscape in there too, flowers... basically alittle of everything. Like I said though, I am learning still. But like the ability to be creative.

I can purchase the 60d body prebundled with the 18-135 IS kit thru the CLP.
I can purchase the body only thru the clp.
I can purchase the body with a different lens...I was thinking either the 17-55 IS, the 24-70, 24-105.

I like the range of the current 18-55 kit, but sometimes wish I had more reach. But, I am leaning towards the 17-55 because of f2.8 and the fact that I do shoot indoors alot too.

I don't want to be changing lenses too much (hard with the little ones around), and alittle concerned the 17-55 won't be long enough in some situations, but I want a lens that will be good in low light and give me some flexibility. It's hard to catch he kids when the are active and I want all 4 of them in the shot (ages 1 thru 10), so with my 50 mm prime it can be tough.

I'm also wondering that the 17-55 paired with the 50 1.4 is overkill, but I do like the artsy ability that is there using it down to f1.4-1.8.

I have concidered the 24-70 2.8, but I think I may miss the wider angle of the 18-55 kit lens I have now, plus I hear it's called the "brick" and think this could get alittle heavy. thus why the 17-55 2.8 is what I'm concidering. I've also concidered the 24-105 4.0, but concerned about low light (and not having the wider angle too). If the 18-85 was a 2.8 I'd have gone that route, shucks!

Or should I just get the 18-135 IS that it comes bundled with and keep learning for a year or so and then upgrade (at a higher price though obviously :/ )

I keep going back and forth on the lens choice, I need to get this figured out so I can order the cameara :) I guess I can make due with my crappy 70-300 that I have for when I need the reach for plays or sports since right now it's the least of the photos that are being taken now.

Thanks!!


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Jun 03, 2012 12:01 |  #2

Take a bunch of pics. See what focal lengths you seem to be mostly using. I have a 24-70 and while it is a good lens, it's neither wide enough or long enough imo for what I am doing most of the time. I would look at the 17-55 before the 24-70 for short work and the 24-105 if some more reach appears to be what you need. Have exactly what you want on one end of the focal range if you get my drift


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Jun 03, 2012 12:15 |  #3

If you need 2.8 then the Canon 17-55 is or 3rd party version. Another lens to consider is the 15-85 equal to IQ as the 17-55 but has a varible f 3.5-5.6 is. Both lens are great lens in there own right.

Check both out in the lens samples archive here on POTN, and decide.


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Jun 03, 2012 12:16 |  #4

If you shoot indoors with poor light, you will really enjoy the 60D and your 430ex becuase you can now get it off camera and really do some cool things BTW. I think I would get the 17-55. Some other options would be to get the 15-85 and a 28/1.8 for about the same price which would help a lot more in freezing children's movement in poor light than a 2.8 zoom. Another option would be to go Sigma and get the 17-50/2.8 and 30/1.4 which is what I have.

I would probably sell the Qray 70-300 now too and get a 55-250. That or spend a little more and get the Tamron 70-300 VC or better yet on of the 70-200L options.


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Jun 03, 2012 12:41 |  #5

I'm back. Cheapest for your needs is probably a 60D with 18-135 kit through the CLP plus a 55-250 (white box) from Adorama for $199.00 plus a $20 hood. That totals about $1,100 if my math is correct. This covers a good range and many of your needs. Low light action and even a moderate telephoto is a different world and can get very expensive.

I mention the 55-250 (day time) because a lens that zooms to at least 200mm is important for youth sports. I would not worry about lens speed because recreational youth athletic fields nearly always have terrible lighting. I can't photograph night sports at several of our fields with the lens at f/2.8 and the camera at ISO 3200.

I know exactly how you feel in deciding which general purpose /walkaround lens to get. My choices were the same as yours, 17-55, 24-27 or 24-105. The process of deciding could best be described as agonizing. Aperture of f/2.8 or f/4.0? Which focal length? Get IS or no IS?

Biggest decision seemed to be f/2.8 or f/4.0 I used an old film camera set at ISO 1600 and the lens set at f/2.8 to determine I would still need a flash in my home. I actually need a flash with a lens at f/1.8 so f/2.8 was not not nearly as important as I thought. That experiment eliminated the 24-70 lens.

Which focal length is a personal decision. Wide is not nearly important as length to me.

Almost everything I shoot is moving or has potential to move at the worst possible time (children) so IS has not been an issue for my style. I don't know that it has ever been needed in three years.

I suggest you do something similar by using your camera at ISO 1600 and your 50 f/1.4 lens set at f/2.8 to see if those settings work for you. The resulting shutter speed is really important. Quality does not matter for such a test, a 60D will be much better at higher ISO settings than your XTi.

Do you use you use the 18-24 length with your current lens? If yes then get a lens that includes that focal length. If not then something longer might work.


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Jun 03, 2012 12:53 |  #6

If shooting indoors is your forte, 2.8, although not fast enough for some, is perfect for others. With a flash, even better. And you having a prime, will probably make it onto the body if 2.8 isn't enough.

If you can swing it, i'd go with the 17-55.

Good luck with your decision! It will be a tough one. :D




  
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Jun 03, 2012 13:59 |  #7

would the 18-135 be good enough indoors? I was thinking no. I won't need the 55-250 with that lens since I do have the 70-300 (although not a very good one).

If I got the 17-55 I was thinking maybe the 55-70 to go along with that.

I'd like to keep it cheep and do just the "kit" with the body= 881.24 (includes tax)

arg, I just don't know what to do. I really want the 17-55. the 60d with this would be 1478.22 with tax plus the 55-250.


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Jun 03, 2012 14:08 |  #8

An option would be to get a less expensive zoom and a fast prime, like the 35F2. You will get better image quality with the 15-85 or the 17-55, but they do cost - especially the 17-55IS.
once you stop these lenses down to F8, you can get sharp photos with the 18-135.
I recommend waiting before putting a lot of money into an expensive zoom until you have more experience with the camera. I have a 60D and like it, but I would suggest getting more glass for your camera before picking up another body. This will give you more time to learn exactly what will work best for you.




  
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