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Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 Pancake

 
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Jun 06, 2012 18:35 |  #16

Ming-Tzu wrote in post #14541666 (external link)
Pardon my ignorance but what is the significance of this lens other than the size?

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Pancake lenses are primarily valued for providing quality optics in a compact package. The resulting camera and lens assembly may even be small enough to be pocketable, a design feature which is usually impractical with conventional SLR bodies and lens assembiles.


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Jun 06, 2012 18:39 |  #17

I've got a good friend that has been looking for something like this for street photography. Heck, if the optics are good, and it really is sub $200, then I'll probably get one too.


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Jun 06, 2012 19:34 |  #18

I must say, if this lens performs well IQ wise I may pick one up... Be a fun, extremely light lens. But only if the IQ is good and AF is not terrible. Wish it were f/2 though.


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Jun 06, 2012 20:23 |  #19
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Numenorean wrote in post #14541628 (external link)
That would look so ridiculous on an SLR lol. I don't see much point for a pancake lens for an SLR.

Why are you so concerned about how it looks? If it produces crisp, colorful images and weighs nothing, what's not to like. Too many people are to preoccupied on how they look with their gear.




  
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Jun 06, 2012 20:26 |  #20

Hogloff wrote in post #14542328 (external link)
Why are you so concerned about how it looks? If it produces crisp, colorful images and weighs nothing, what's not to like. Too many people are to preoccupied on how they look with their gear.

so damn true.


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Jun 06, 2012 20:30 |  #21

Numenorean wrote in post #14541628 (external link)
That would look so ridiculous on an SLR lol. I don't see much point for a pancake lens for an SLR.

It's not about looks, but about low-profile (which may be the opposite of what folks that love a big, long, white L zoom or prime may be used to). Although I'm not much of a street shooter, there is a reason why street shooters like rangefinder and rangefinder styled cameras like the Leica M9, Fujifilm X100, Fujifilm X-Pro 1, etc. In a public space, the camera is almost unnoticed by most passers-by.

Here is what the Voigtlander 40mm f/2.0 Ultron SL II looked like on my old 50D (now have a 5D II):

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Voigtlander 40mm f2 mounted on Canon 50D - view 2 (external link) by DeArment (external link), on Flickr

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Voigtlander 40mm f2 mounted on Canon 50D - view 3 (external link) by DeArment (external link), on Flickr

And for comparison, the Canon 85mm f/1.8 USM:
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Voigtlander 40mm f2 compared to Canon 85mm f1.8 - unmounted (external link) by DeArment (external link), on Flickr

The Canon 85mm f/1.8 USM is a relatively small/light lens when compared to L primes or any zoom. And look how large it looks in comparison to the Voigtlander 40mm. There are times where I go out with only the Voigtlander mounted and no other lenses. It's unbelievable how much lighter and less cumbersome a DSLR or SLR (I shoot an EOS 3 film body too) can feel.

If the Canon 40mm does turn out to have good IQ, they need to follow it up with a pancake version of the 20mm. I've been wanting the Voigtlander 20mm, but haven't decided to make saving for it a priority yet.

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Jun 06, 2012 20:37 |  #22

Numenorean wrote in post #14541628 (external link)
That would look so ridiculous on an SLR lol. I don't see much point for a pancake lens for an SLR.

What do you mean? What does it matter what it looks like?


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Jun 06, 2012 20:53 |  #23
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ok it's not really about how it looks but I see no practicality putting a pancake on a DSLR which isn't particularly small to begin with.

Pancake is only half the story to go stealthy. It needs to pair with a small body such as a x-pro1, nex series etc to complete it.


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Jun 07, 2012 00:59 |  #24

Numenorean wrote in post #14541628 (external link)
That would look so ridiculous on an SLR lol. I don't see much point for a pancake lens for an SLR.

Makes complete sense for a FF body if it's $200 and sharp wide open under the follow scenarios:

- Lightweight combination for hiking.

- Discrete camera for dining out.




  
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Jun 07, 2012 01:05 |  #25
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silvrg35 wrote in post #14543349 (external link)
Makes complete sense for a FF body if it's $200 and sharp wide open under the follow scenarios:
- Lightweight combination for hiking.

um a ff body is lightweight? Compare to what?

- Discrete camera for dining out.

Again, a ff body is discrete? Compare to what? a MF body?


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Jun 07, 2012 02:15 |  #26

I'm interested!


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Jun 07, 2012 06:54 |  #27

That'll be a nice street lens.


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Jun 07, 2012 07:04 |  #28
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kin2son wrote in post #14543365 (external link)
um a ff body is lightweight? Compare to what?

Again, a ff body is discrete? Compare to what? a MF body?

Compared to the same camera with a normal sized lens on it. I use Zuiko lenses which are small and light when I want to save on bulk and weight. These small lenses truly do make a difference after carry your gear for a day.




  
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Jun 07, 2012 07:07 |  #29

If the image quality and auto focus performance are good, I could see using this in place of my 50mm f/1.4 in certain instances. I currently use that lens as a light weight indoor lens at family events, as it is less noticeable -- and therefore less intimidating to subjects -- than a large zoom. I did the same thing with the 7D + 28mm f/1.8 combo.


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Jun 07, 2012 08:07 |  #30

I like. This might be something you keep on a second body while it's in the non-body compartment of a bag or backpack only intended for one body. A regular lens makes a body unwieldy.


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