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Jun 06, 2012 14:41 as a reply to  @ post 14540758 |  #16

It looks like you jumped into the digital photography stream full force - congratulations.

Riverdog1 has a point, I love my 100 macro (non-L) but from where you might be standing (literally not figuratively) the 300 might serve you better. It is quite a bit bigger than the 100L though.

Enjoy your new equipment.


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Jun 06, 2012 14:50 |  #17

The 5D3 and 24-105 is a cracking combination. I was out yesterday shooting with a pair of primes (50 f1.4 and 85 f1.8) but in the end I changed them for the 24-105 and got some great results from all 3 lenses. Congrats on buying all that nice kit, hope you have plenty of fun with it.


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Jun 06, 2012 14:59 |  #18

Scott M wrote in post #14540505 (external link)
This is the second time I've taken advantage of such a rebate. A couple of years ago I bought the 100-400L at the same time as a 7D to get a double rebate. In each case, I ended up getting the new lens for about what a used version would cost.

I would have gone through B&H but they didn't have the kit in stock so I went with Adorama...neither store said anything about a rebate when I asked? So I called Adorama and they're going to put a "price match request" in and let me know in two days. I told them I also wanted to order the 100 macro which is $979.00 as an extra incentive and finally if they weren't going to match price I'd refuse the entire shipment and go with B&H. So we'll see...once again thank you.

riverdog1 wrote in post #14540758 (external link)
You can see from my user name I Love Rivers too! Just a thought, I have a 300mm f4 IS
that works great for bugs about 6 feet away and birds much further away. It has a
minimum focus distance that allows photographing bugs without disturbing them the way
you sometimes do with a macro. I use a 1.4x on the 300mm almost all the time.
I eventually sold my macro because of the fine job the 300 with 1.4x does. They are different beasts though...maybe have them both!

(east central IL panfish love blue winged olives!)

I love rivers & dogs. I looked into the 300mm and as nice a lens as it is I felt with the combination of lens I was getting the 100mm macro was a better fit. Our trout out here are rather fond of the blue wings as well as an assortment of other mayflies not to mention the caddis, midge and terrestrials we see on a regular basis.

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Jun 06, 2012 15:18 |  #19

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I just ordered a 5D mark iii with the 24-105L IS lens and then made the mistake of looking through some of these threads and after reading about the 70-300 f/4-5.6 L serries IS lens couldn't help but order it. And now I'm looking at the canon 100 f2.8L macro IS lens...the reviews are sterling.

I am by no means anywhere near a professional and this will be my first DSLR camera coming off the SLR's from years ago. I do a lot of Stillwater fly-fishing, thus the handle "Stillwater Gold", so I'm looking for something very durable, weather resistant, will be doing a lot of shooting from the boat thus the need for IS, shots will include birds, wildlife, landscape, dogs in action, fish, fellow flyfishermen, and lots of bugs. We flyfishermen love bugs!:D

My plan is to be completely overwhelmed initially by this new gear:oops:but eventually learn the ropes and have the ability to take some wonderful pictures as I've seen on this site.

With the addition of macro lens I should have all the bases covered, hopefully. I just want to make sure I'm not duplicating myself here on these lens cause the bank account is just about empty.

Thanks for any input or donations;)

Pete

I would also put up the 17-40L or the 16-35L for a suggestion......I use it 85% of the time, but I do a lot of landscape stuff. It's really a fun perspective to get the whole scene at a sports event or a party


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Jun 06, 2012 15:29 |  #20

Stillwater Gold wrote in post #14540977 (external link)
I would have gone through B&H but they didn't have the kit in stock so I went with Adorama...neither store said anything about a rebate when I asked? So I called Adorama and they're going to put a "price match request" in and let me know in two days. I told them I also wanted to order the 100 macro which is $979.00 as an extra incentive and finally if they weren't going to match price I'd refuse the entire shipment and go with B&H. So we'll see...once again thank you.

I ordered my 5D3 kit and 135L through Adorama, and they were quite helpful... but I already knew about the rebate, and only called them because the double rebate price wasn't showing up in my online shopping cart.

There is a Adorama customer service representative named Helen (can't remember her last name) who frequents this forum. She may be able to assist you.


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Jun 06, 2012 15:34 |  #21

Make sure you also read the reviews on the 200 f/2L IS. As well as the 85L II, and the new 600 f/4 L IS II.

While you're at it, there's the 500 f/4 L IS II, 400 & 300 f/2.8 L IS II's. :lol:

Impulse and gear lust = bad combination.


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Jun 06, 2012 17:17 |  #22

Scott M wrote in post #14541136 (external link)
I ordered my 5D3 kit and 135L through Adorama, and they were quite helpful... but I already knew about the rebate, and only called them because the double rebate price wasn't showing up in my online shopping cart.

There is a Adorama customer service representative named Helen (can't remember her last name) who frequents this forum. She may be able to assist you.

Well we'll see...if Adorama is willing to give up a $6000.00 plus sale over a $100.00 price match with a well known competitor then I'd rather not do business with them anyway. I've heard good things about them from others so hopefully this won't become an issue.

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Jun 06, 2012 20:50 |  #23

jwcdds wrote in post #14541155 (external link)
Make sure you also read the reviews on the 200 f/2L IS. As well as the 85L II, and the new 600 f/4 L IS II.

While you're at it, there's the 500 f/4 L IS II, 400 & 300 f/2.8 L IS II's. :lol:

Impulse and gear lust = bad combination.

Thanks for your input but unfortunately I do have to work within my limitations :)

"Impulse and gear lust = bad combination"

In my case I'd rephrase that to read...
Passion and Well-Suited Gear = Putting Dreams Within Reach ;)

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Jun 06, 2012 22:52 |  #24

I think it's good to get some good lenses, especially those generally accepted good lenses at the first place. My first big upgrade from the kit lens is 70-200 and I never regret that, and don't worry about similar range lens any more. I enjoy the IQ it delivers. on the contrary 55-250 I bought earlier always annoys me, I took pics with that, I got pics with OK to poor quality. sometimes I don't even want to see these pics a second time. With these cheap lens you suppose you can do decent job. If you can live with the IQ then everything is fine. If not one day you will still spend time/money looking for better lens. And you may have lost many beautiful moments during the hesitation. So when you have the money, enjoy the good lens


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Jun 06, 2012 23:12 |  #25

I would have gone with either a 70-200 or the 100-400 instead of the 70-300L. The 70-300L is not compatible with Canon teleconverters (for when you want that extra reach). The 100L is an awesome lens. It handles really well. The IS is very nice on it too. You mentioned wanting IS and weather sealing on your gear and the 100L will not dissapoint, but if you can go without either and want to save $500, you can look into the 100mm non L/IS macro. It's image quality is just as good as the L.


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Jun 06, 2012 23:42 |  #26

Ahh I thought i was crazy!!... But you worse hehehehe... jk

Its an expensive hobby i guess. Your gears is pretty much similar to mine, I have 5d3 + 24-105L and 35L and now i am looking at 100L macro too.... I have been tossing it between the 135L and 100L.
I decide to get 100L very soon. But i heard the 70-200 f4L IS is really nice combo too...

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Jun 06, 2012 23:43 |  #27

kawi_200 wrote in post #14542995 (external link)
I would have gone with either a 70-200 or the 100-400 instead of the 70-300L. The 70-300L is not compatible with Canon teleconverters (for when you want that extra reach). The 100L is an awesome lens. It handles really well. The IS is very nice on it too. You mentioned wanting IS and weather sealing on your gear and the 100L will not dissapoint, but if you can go without either and want to save $500, you can look into the 100mm non L/IS macro. It's image quality is just as good as the L.

I'm trying to keep the size/weight down as much as possible without saccrafising IQ.

The 70-300L also gives me just a bit more reach over the 70-200 which I'm looking for. The canon TC's aren't compatible but fortunately the Kenko Teleplus PRO 300 DGX 1.4x AF Teleconverter is from what I've read on this great site.

I spend a lot of time on the boat and in the water so my feeling is the weather sealing is worth the extra money. And many of the insects I'll be shooting are aquatic.

I sure appreciate your input.

Thanks,

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Jun 07, 2012 03:09 |  #28

If the weather sealing is what you need then by all means go for it. I'm not judging, it's one of the basis I consider when buying equipment too. Since I live in the Seattle area I get a LOT of rain, plus I hike a lot and the waterfalls and dust I encounter I just don't want to have to worry about them. I completely understand wanting to spend the extra money on weather sealing ;)

Keeping weight down is a major issue too. If you don't want/need the faster f/stop and feel the extra reach to 300mm is more valuable, by all means. It sounds like you've got your basis covered. You didn't really mention wanting to shoot landscapes, so I think 24mm should be wide enough for you. I adore my 17-40L, 17mm is SO WIDE on full frame, but normal daily shooting doesn't need 17mm.


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Jun 07, 2012 05:21 |  #29

Stillwater Gold wrote in post #14540977 (external link)
I would have gone through B&H but they didn't have the kit in stock so I went with Adorama...neither store said anything about a rebate when I asked? So I called Adorama and they're going to put a "price match request" in and let me know in two days

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Jun 07, 2012 09:01 |  #30

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The lens you ordered should work well for your birds and wildlife shots. While the macro has IS, it is only 100mm, and I don't know it that will be really long enough for birds, etc. from the boat. That should be the job of 70-300. As for the macro capability, I see a lot of macro lenses offered for sale on the various sites, and the most common reason given is that ..."it does not get used as much as I thought it would." Are you planning to do true macro work (close to 1:1 reproduction) or are you just looking for better close-up capability, which you can get with the Canon 250D or 500D close up lens screwed onto your existing lens.

The 100 macro is for the bugs, not the birds.


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