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Jun 07, 2012 19:21 |  #76
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Hogloff wrote in post #14547125 (external link)
I hike quite often with my 5d2 and 3 Zuiko primes ( 21, 24, 28 ) and the weight savings is very noticeable. I still want the image quality from my 5d2, but don't need the bulk or weight of full sized lenses.

I don't understand what you are arguing about. Size and weight are not a concern during a 20km trek with elevation gains of 1500 meters?

Your answer - xpro-1 or OM-D. Lugging a 5D2 with a pancake is like removing the windscreen on a truck to save weight.


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Jun 07, 2012 19:45 |  #77

kin2son wrote in post #14547209 (external link)
Your answer - xpro-1 or OM-D. Lugging a 5D2 with a pancake is like removing the windscreen on a truck to save weight.

Terrible analogy. Removing a windshield on a truck would have a negative effect on fuel economy and safety. I really don't see how a pancake lens on a FF body is a bad thing for hiking expeditions.




  
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Jun 07, 2012 19:52 |  #78

kin2son wrote in post #14547209 (external link)
Your answer - xpro-1 or OM-D. Lugging a 5D2 with a pancake is like removing all the cargo trailers from the truck, it will sure handle better

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Jun 07, 2012 19:54 |  #79

Virto wrote in post #14546798 (external link)
If it is only 200 bucks, it's 200 cheaper than the 35 f2. Little slower, little less wide, but it's gotta be super cheap to make for Canon to price it there. If it's 200, I may well buy one. If it's 300 or more, I'll pass.

Maybe 200 is too low. Canon is not that kind. :p

But as long as it does not get priced like the 24IS or the 28IS. This lens will be a pretty good alternative.


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Jun 07, 2012 19:58 |  #80

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Terrible analogy. Removing a windshield on a truck would have a negative effect on fuel economy and safety. I really don't see how a pancake lens on a FF body is a bad thing for hiking expeditions.

it's everyone talking about how important weight is on their backpacking(i'm assuming backpacking, cause i don't see any weight difference mattering all that much for hiking) trips...but i don't see the point for that even...5DII + this 40mm pancake lens would weigh the same as a t2i + a tamron 17-50f2.8...

the weight difference between the 40mm and the 35f2 is only 2 ounces...when you're bringing a body that weighs in a 30ounces those 2 ounces seem rather odd to be obsessed with...


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Jun 07, 2012 20:00 |  #81
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silvrg35 wrote in post #14547311 (external link)
Terrible analogy. Removing a windshield on a truck would have a negative effect on fuel economy and safety. I really don't see how a pancake lens on a FF body is a bad thing for hiking expeditions.

The point is about weight saving with a pancake on a body which is big and heavy to begin with....

If one can't handle the weight of a ff with a proper lens when hiking, maybe one should just go mirrorless + pancake I'm afraid.


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Jun 07, 2012 20:04 |  #82

i think it will be a good addition to my rebel body ... or even as a backup lens for FF when i only bring tele lenses.

as long as it's below 200usd, i'm in.


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Jun 07, 2012 20:27 |  #83

kin2son wrote in post #14547209 (external link)
Your answer - xpro-1 or OM-D. Lugging a 5D2 with a pancake is like removing the windscreen on a truck to save weight.

Image quality matters to me. I print large photos. The small sensors of the suggested cameras are ok for web images, but don't cut the cake for 30x40 prints.

Obviously you have not trekked for long distances with elevation. Every gram counts at the end of the day.




  
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Jun 07, 2012 20:30 |  #84

kin2son wrote in post #14547375 (external link)
The point is about weight saving with a pancake on a body which is big and heavy to begin with....

If one can't handle the weight of a ff with a proper lens when hiking, maybe one should just go mirrorless + pancake I'm afraid.

I am afraid you are talking about something you have no experience with. Every ounce counts when you have to scramble up some scree at the base of a glacier.




  
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Jun 07, 2012 20:56 |  #85

May be this can explain something

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Jun 07, 2012 21:49 |  #86

kin2son wrote in post #14547375 (external link)
The point is about weight saving with a pancake on a body which is big and heavy to begin with....

If one can't handle the weight of a ff with a proper lens when hiking, maybe one should just go mirrorless + pancake I'm afraid.

You clearly have no experience with hiking and I'm not talking about a 2 mile hike on a maintained with zero elevation gain. ANY slr body with a small prime would take up 20-25% of the volume in a 30L hiking pack. Anyone with hiking experience would pack their essential gears (shell jacket, water, food, snacks, lights) before even deciding about their camera gears.




  
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Jun 07, 2012 21:54 |  #87

kin2son wrote in post #14547375 (external link)
The point is about weight saving with a pancake on a body which is big and heavy to begin with....

If one can't handle the weight of a ff with a proper lens when hiking, maybe one should just go mirrorless + pancake I'm afraid.

You clearly have no experience with hiking and I'm not talking about a 2 mile hike on a maintained trail with zero elevation gain. ANY slr body with a small prime would take up 20-25% of the volume in a 30L hiking pack. Anyone with hiking experience would pack their essential gears (shell jacket, water, food, snacks, lights) before even deciding about their camera gears.

You have really have 2 choices:

- Spend $200 and sacrifice a few cubic inches with a FF body
- Spend $600-800 on a mirrorless, save a few cubic inches, and have poorer images




  
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Jun 07, 2012 23:11 |  #88

B&H pre-order price of $199.99....gotta admit, i do like that it's at least cheap...

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …0mm_f_2_8_EF_Pa​ncake.html (external link)

also for those wondering it says 7-bladed aperture

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Jun 07, 2012 23:20 |  #89

I do like the 40mm, especially at that price, but what's up with Canon's obsession with video?


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Jun 07, 2012 23:24 |  #90

$200, Rounded 7 blade aperture?

I might get one... Im going to be selling my Sigmalux and the 35mm f/2 anyways...


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