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Looking for the best setup to shoot Football Games

 
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Jun 07, 2012 21:59 |  #16

Yngblass...what you need is a 1D MarkIII...Excellent for sports photography....I'm selling mine...PM me if interested




  
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Jun 08, 2012 04:49 |  #17

camarillo wrote in post #14547803 (external link)
really?

you have an awesome camera; is it the BEST for fast action sports - well, perhaps not
will you capture great images yes. if you understand the game and can anticipate what is going on, you will do well

to say the AF is not good; just do a search within POTN for 5D Mark 2 and see some incredible moments

Do the PRO sports guys use the mark 2 - no they dont

OK, before all you guys tell me why your 7D is better; who cares, why shoot this guys camera down

He finally got a new camera and he is excited about sports photography;
isn't that what it is all about?

As for a lens, find a used 70-200 f2.8

keep on reading about shoot sports; there are a lot of great teachers willing to share their experience.

Thanks Man, Yea I'm not a Pro, not trying to be on any NFL Sidelines. Just wanna shoot some above average photos of my Kids athletic events.




  
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Jun 08, 2012 06:37 |  #18

yngblass wrote in post #14548942 (external link)
Thanks Man, Yea I'm not a Pro, not trying to be on any NFL Sidelines. Just wanna shoot some above average photos of my Kids athletic events.

I'm sure your 5D will be awesome for portraits of your kids. Do you best with the sports shots, but realise that having an expensive camera/lens set up does not guarantee you 'above average' kids sports pics. It ain't that simple! Enjoy the challenge.


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Jun 08, 2012 07:03 |  #19

70-200L non IS while the rebates are still on. I've used one for the last couple years on a 7D doing primary high school sports and a little bit of college football, as well as soccer, volleyball, track and softball/baseball. Might also consider a 85 1.8 if you're doing indoor sports like basketball.


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Jun 08, 2012 08:39 |  #20

rweav72 wrote in post #14549225 (external link)
70-200L non IS while the rebates are still on. I've used one for the last couple years on a 7D doing primary high school sports and a little bit of college football, as well as soccer, volleyball, track and softball/baseball. Might also consider a 85 1.8 if you're doing indoor sports like basketball.

Where can I find a 70-200 L at Good Price maybe with a Rebate!




  
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Jun 10, 2012 09:54 |  #21

The 5D Mark ii is not a prime camera for sport photography, the frame rate of the camera is the deal breaker at 3.9 frames per second. The lenses for this full frame camera of course are the "L" lenses vs the EF-S series.
A great starting place for lenses is the 70-200 mm 2.8 lens. Most any sports photographer will have one of these in his bag.
If you envision shooting sporting events that take place outside during low lighting, to capture the best images you will need to get the 300 2.8 or the 400 2.8 lenses to get the closer shots that show the player of play vs the guy in row three tossing his drink as he celebrates a home run, touch down or score.
If you intend to shoot sports on a regular basis you might want to consider the 7D not only for the higher frame rate, (8 fps) the caveat here is the higher speed CF cards will improve your read and write times
If the 7D is not your cup of tea find a Canon 1D Mark 2n. This camera was the next version or versions of the Canon 1D series of camera and the 2n improvements were meant to correct some of the problems with auto focus that took place in some of the 1D series of cameras
Here is a hint, the 5D Mark ii shoots at 3.8 fps, the 1D Mark 2n 8.5 fps, the 7D shoots at 8 fps, but the pixel count is 18.
A great place to take a look and shop for used lenses, and also a great place to off the 5 D Mark ii in the event you decide to opt for a more sports orientated camera and lenses is KEH, @ www.keh.com (external link)


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Jun 10, 2012 10:14 |  #22

Assuming the games are in the day time with decent sun, what about a 100-400mm? If games are at night, stay away from this lens.


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Jun 10, 2012 11:15 |  #23

+1 to Sports Dude, the 100-400 is a great day light sports lens, not so great when the sunsets of under the lights


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Jun 10, 2012 19:10 |  #24

camarillo wrote in post #14547803 (external link)
really?

you have an awesome camera; is it the BEST for fast action sports - well, perhaps not
will you capture great images yes. if you understand the game and can anticipate what is going on, you will do well

to say the AF is not good; just do a search within POTN for 5D Mark 2 and see some incredible moments

Do the PRO sports guys use the mark 2 - no they dont

OK, before all you guys tell me why your 7D is better; who cares, why shoot this guys camera down

He finally got a new camera and he is excited about sports photography;
isn't that what it is all about?

As for a lens, find a used 70-200 f2.8

keep on reading about shoot sports; there are a lot of great teachers willing to share their experience.

Not bashing his camera, it's a good camera, no doubt about that. But so are medium format cameras. There are strengths and weaknesses with different types of cameras.

With that said, sure he can get some good shots with the 5dm2, but if he wants to have his focus follow a football player running full speed coming at you, I would have doubts that the mk2 would be able to hold up.

Too many people buy gear and expect it to produce good images and give up shortly after because they just don't know.

Best advise I can give is to learn your camera (strengths and weaknesses) go out and shoot and post pictures here for critique.


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Jun 11, 2012 08:30 |  #25

Not to burst anybody's bubble, but I know plenty of pros at major metro newspapers, the AP and Getty Images who shoot with 5D Mark 2s. You can shoot sports with it if you want. Sports photography is about a whole lot more than burst rates.


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Jun 15, 2012 20:11 |  #26

While not football in the American sense...I shot this in the typical night game lighting. Taken with a 70-200 2.8L lens witch is the key. The camera body was a T3i. The cropped sensor was a little advantage maybe but the 5d ii will be just fine. I shot this of a friend's daughter and I think it served it's purpose ok.

I got about 7 or 8 nice keepers until she got pulled 15 minutes into the first half. She scored 3 goals and the rout was on. They won 5-1. Not bad for a freshmen on varsity....but I digress.

Oh, I did buy a 5Diii : )

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Jun 15, 2012 21:22 as a reply to  @ johnb007's post |  #27

Don't trip on the AF.. I bought a 5D2 a few months back, and one of the first replies I got instead of congratulations was along the lines of "what about the crappy AF".

So I started to do a little searching, and all I could find was posts on the 5D2's bad AF. After filling my head up with posts on how bad the AF was on my camera, I didn't even bother trying to track anything with it. As a matter of fact I started a thread on how Canon should have put a better AF system in the camera instead of video and got beat up pretty good from video lovers replies.

One day a couple months later, while down at the beach shooting anything in sight, I saw that a guy was flying a remote control airplane, so I decided to snap a few shots of it. I was using a 24-105 and I did not bother to have AIservo or multi-burst engaged. Just single-shot.

The RC plane was a good distance off, and is a lot smaller and moves quite a bit faster than a soccer/football player would IMO, so I wasn't expecting much.

When I got home, I was really surprised to find tack sharp shots of the plane.

Now, Im not saying that all the other AF sytems are not better than what is on the 5D2. What I am saying is that it is not totally useless junk. Im sure you will get a lot more keepers from those other systems, but Im a hobbyist just like you, and I think the AF on the 5D2 is more than adequate for guys like us.

Give it a try, use a tripod where you can, and see what you get. You may find it is all you need.

Good Luck


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Jun 24, 2012 11:28 |  #28

Are we talking about shooting from the sidelines or trying to shoot from the stands...

My equipment when I am in the stands... Popcorn in one hand and a beer in the other hand. I don't shoot from the stands. I will only shoot sports from the sidelines...

If you have access to the sidelines:

Best setup: a pair of 1D (series) bodies with 70-200mm f/2.8L IS ii and 400mm f/2.8L IS lenses...

Poorman's setup: a pair of 1.6x cameras (especially the 7D) with 70-200mm f/4L IS and 300mm f/4L IS lenses...


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