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70-200 f/4L w/o IS for weddings?

 
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Jun 08, 2012 18:25 |  #1

I currently own a 24-105L. I'm considering purchasing a 70-200mm 4L without instant stabilization. I would be using it on my rebel t1i. I'm curious if this would be a waste of money if my main goal is to get if for weddings. Thoughts?

This may sound stupid, but that price point is my major deciding factor at the moment.


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Jun 08, 2012 18:33 |  #2

I've owned the 70-200 without IS and gradual upgraded over the years to the 70-200 f2.8 IS. However, I find myself using the 24-105 more than any of my other lenses when at a function, be it a wedding or christening.

Is that down to weight of the longer lens or my style I don't know. The Longer lens tends to get used more for the theatre stuff and motorsport ( with x2).


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Jun 08, 2012 19:20 |  #3

Thanks for sharing! I love my 24-105, everyone talks about the 70-200 variations of lenses for weddings so much I was starting to believe the lens I know, love, and use so often wasn't good enough. Thanks for bringing things back into perspective for me.


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Jun 08, 2012 19:43 |  #4

The 70-200mm f4 non-IS is a great lens for outdoors and when there's plenty of light. Indoors, especially in churches, you may struggle. I had an XSi and I know how hard it is to push ISO with the Rebels. The IS can really help compensate for the slow shutter speeds that you'll need indoors. It's only a stop better than your 55-250 right now. Turn off your IS and try to hand hold the 55-250 indoors and see how you do. Take your best shots and imagine them with double the SS. If you can use flash, then f/4 and not having IS isn't a big deal.

There's a reason most wedding photographers use 2.8 and faster.


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Jun 08, 2012 23:54 |  #5

I think you are pretty well covered with your 24-105. Instead of buying telephoto lens, i would rather get a wide angle to be able to photograph large groups in tight spaces.


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Jun 09, 2012 00:34 |  #6

I love the 70-200 f/4 non IS, I own it, and the only reason I purchased the lens at this time is because I can not afford the IS MK II version of the f/2.8.

I have used it for wedding work, and its amazing! Here is some sample shot I took:

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roberts family 183-001 (external link) by Austin Pekarek Photography (external link), on Flickr

Used on my 7d, its awesome, I love it, and would use it any day, even when I have enough sitting to afford the 70-200 IS MK II, I will probably not sell this lens.



  
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Jun 09, 2012 03:48 |  #7

Austin.P wrote in post #14553532 (external link)
I love the 70-200 f/4 non IS, I own it, and the only reason I purchased the lens at this time is because I can not afford the IS MK II version of the f/2.8.

I have used it for wedding work, and its amazing! Here is some sample shot I took:

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roberts family 183-001 (external link) by Austin Pekarek Photography (external link), on Flickr

Used on my 7d, its awesome, I love it, and would use it any day, even when I have enough sitting to afford the 70-200 IS MK II, I will probably not sell this lens.

klr.b had a good point though. I will have issues when it comes to lighting. Guess it may not matter because I will never accept gigs that I can't use flash. And I haven't been asked not to yet. It does take some pretty sharp photos though.


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Jun 09, 2012 06:36 |  #8

If you're shooting weddings for pay, the first thing you need is a backup to everything you already have. What happens if that flash quits in the middle of the ceremony? Or the camera?


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Jun 09, 2012 06:54 |  #9

I had the 70-200mm f4/L non-IS. It's has great IQ but is frustrating to keep shutter speeds high enough to get crisp photos. I was continually having to adjust the ISO. After getting the IS version, I can focus on the photograph rather than the carema.


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Jun 09, 2012 07:09 |  #10

I also use a T1i and picked up a 24-105 and the 70-200 f4 IS last week. I've never used the non IS but have seen a lot of amazing pics with it. In the short time I've used mine, it's been hard to use in low light. The IS helps though. With good light, its a great lens and I bet the non IS is good too! Maybe you can rent a copy and go from there to decide.


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Jun 09, 2012 07:10 |  #11

vadim22 wrote in post #14553436 (external link)
I think you are pretty well covered with your 24-105. Instead of buying telephoto lens, i would rather get a wide angle to be able to photograph large groups in tight spaces.

I have the Canon 10-22 and it's a great lens!


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Jun 09, 2012 07:33 |  #12

pman67 wrote in post #14554078 (external link)
If you're shooting weddings for pay, the first thing you need is a backup to everything you already have. What happens if that flash quits in the middle of the ceremony? Or the camera?

I have 2 flashes. As for the camera......that will come in time. I'm working on that now or I can rent an additional one.


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Jun 09, 2012 09:37 |  #13

The 2.8 aperture and IS is of real value when shooting weddings. The combination of f4.0 and no IS for low light wedding work can cause headaches. Save your money and do it right the first time. Ultimately that's the cheaper route.


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Jun 09, 2012 11:12 |  #14

pman67 wrote in post #14554078 (external link)
If you're shooting weddings for pay, the first thing you need is a backup to everything you already have. What happens if that flash quits in the middle of the ceremony? Or the camera?

Speaking of backups... just make sure you aren't wearing them all at once!
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=ciqSdgLh_1w (external link)


Man talk about ~$15k down the drain!




  
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Jun 09, 2012 12:09 |  #15

cristphoto wrote in post #14554454 (external link)
The 2.8 aperture and IS is of real value when shooting weddings. The combination of f4.0 and no IS for low light wedding work can cause headaches. Save your money and do it right the first time. Ultimately that's the cheaper route.

I totaly agree with you on this, I really do, but I look at it like this.

Buy a 70-200 NON IS till you can afford the 70-200 f/2.8 Is MK II, just like I am doing, when you have enough cash saved up, turn around, sell your f/4 for what you have in it, then use the money you have saved to go along with the lens you just sold to afford the 70-200 f/2.8 IS, essintially, you are out no more money than you would be to wait and save for the 2.8, Just logicall thinking.




  
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