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Canon announces T4i / 650D!

 
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Jun 08, 2012 02:09 |  #1

Canon announces EOS 650D / Rebel T4i 18MP touch-screen DSLR with Hybrid AF

http://www.dpreview.co​m …ounces-EOS-650D-Rebel-T4i (external link)

While I was still considering the 60D which obviously is a more serious body this looks interesting. I wish it had pentaprism viewfinder though.


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Jun 08, 2012 07:24 |  #2

I'm actually picking up a 60D as a go to lens for non sports and travel... the t4i looks amazing as well, but the build quality might be less par than that 60D....


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Jun 08, 2012 11:08 |  #3

Nicee! Hopefully the 70D matches the rumored specs and isn't priced too high. I'd like one of those!


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Jun 08, 2012 11:48 |  #4

Are all cross type sensors that big a deal? Other than that, nothing I need over my T3i.

I shoot single focus points and usually at f4 or smaller.


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Jun 08, 2012 11:55 |  #5

so there's a new lens system for the hybrid af?


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Jun 08, 2012 16:00 |  #6

So it's finally happened. Touch screens have invaded the DSLR.

In this and cars, touchscreens stand to contribute nothing and ruin everything. I fear what lies ahead.

On the upside, I suppose there will be more goofy, hapless photographers wandering about with their cameras held out at arms length, elbows locked, with one hand poking ineffectually at the screen. Hey, this usually works better on my iPhone!


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Jun 08, 2012 17:40 |  #7

Good god, no freaking need to have a touch screen, I saw to god if I see anyone who claims to be a pro shooting with this I'm blowing a gasket, that is retarded...bash me now, but seriously, a touch screen on a DSLR? That's stupid!




  
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Jun 08, 2012 17:46 |  #8
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Austin.P wrote in post #14552233 (external link)
Good god, no freaking need to have a touch screen, I saw to god if I see anyone who claims to be a pro shooting with this I'm blowing a gasket, that is retarded...bash me now, but seriously, a touch screen on a DSLR? That's stupid!

Its driven at consumer mania and "upgrade" freaks.
Touch screens have a poor quality record and typical 3 year life...
more reason to "upgrade" after its 3 years are up.


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Jun 08, 2012 17:47 |  #9

I am honestly very impressed with Canon. I teach entry level photography at my city's adult school and I see how many older (and not so tech savvy) people struggle with current DSLRs.

1. Touchscreen: Ok, I know many of you don't like this nor want this feature on your DSLR, but I have to say I LOVE that it is on the T4i. I think it will make changing settings and the whole intimidation of a DSLR far less for less tech savvy individuals. Do I want this on the next 5D/7D/1D? No! But on the entry level cameras it is PERFECT.

2. All Cross Types: Wow Canon, bravo! I tend to have a lot of reservation recommending entry level cameras due to the general lack of cross types (not sure why, maybe my cameras have spoiled me). I love that Canon has taken the bold step of giving the T4i all cross types. Now the camera can af better in low light and track better with the outer points.

3. 5FPS: 5FPS is a huge difference from 3.7 IMO. I think this will help entry level shooters trying to capture action out a lot.

4. Other Thoughts: I am also glad they brought over the new metering and kept the swivel screen. Overall I am impressed at what Canon has released. I can pretty much say Canon has released a no compromise entry level camera which is really impressive. They have not lost sight of the market that actually buys entry level cameras. The only change I would make is actually reduce the resolution (because 18MP on an APS-C sensor is a lot of pixel density and many entry level shooters don't want to drop the money on quality glass to really take advantage of all those pixels).

5. What about the D3200?: What about it? Sure it has more resolution and will prolly have better dynamic range as well as ISO performance, but that isn't everything a camera is about! I actually HATE that the D3200 puts 24MP on an APS-C entry level camera. And Nikon continues to release entry level cameras with purposely withheld features like no built in af motor (for their older lenses), no DoF preview button, no flash control, 4FPS shooting (which is good, but not T4i good), no HSS, no AEB, 1 cross type and no swivel screen. Seriously Nikon? How do you design something AMAZING like the D800 and F-up the D3200 so badly?


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Jun 08, 2012 18:06 |  #10

Mike Deep wrote in post #14551825 (external link)
So it's finally happened. Touch screens have invaded the DSLR.

In this and cars, touchscreens stand to contribute nothing and ruin everything. I fear what lies ahead.

On the upside, I suppose there will be more goofy, hapless photographers wandering about with their cameras held out at arms length, elbows locked, with one hand poking ineffectually at the screen. Hey, this usually works better on my iPhone!

I think Canon saw that a swivel screen wasn't the death of photography so they have decided to up the ante with a touch screen.

Now we'll have more goofy, hapless posts whining about it. Thanks a bunch Canon.


  
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Jun 08, 2012 18:21 |  #11

I'm not quite sure what your point is, other than to be argumentative.

Touch screens are miserable interfaces outside of a very few select devices, and even then they're more for aesthetics than anything else.

Swivel screens brought something to the party. Touch screens are bringing something too, but it's spiked and may leave you in a coma.


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Jun 08, 2012 18:22 |  #12

Personally I think touch screens on cameras like this is overrated (coming from an em-5 user that never uses the touch screen) but you can always turn if off, no harm done.


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Jun 08, 2012 18:52 |  #13

Boy, I just purchased the T3i as my first DSLR last month. Is there any reason at all I should think about upgrading while my camera is flawlessly new?


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Jun 08, 2012 18:57 |  #14

Careyst wrote in post #14552492 (external link)
Boy, I just purchased the T3i as my first DSLR last month. Is there any reason at all I should think about upgrading while my camera is flawlessly new?

How about 3.7 FPS vs 5FPS and 1 cross type vs 9 cross types?


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Jun 08, 2012 19:10 |  #15

themadman wrote in post #14552514 (external link)
How about 3.7 FPS vs 5FPS and 1 cross type vs 9 cross types?

Yeah, I totally agree!

From the T1i to the T3i there was no reason to consider upgrading from one Rebel to the next except for "minor" upgrades here-n-there. With the T4i many things start to happen, the FPS and the 9 cross types are big improvements IMHO. Plus from what I understand video takes a new meaning with this new Rebel. Very nice upgrades to an entry level camera capable of doing very serious work.


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