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This is THE toughest decision EVER! I am struggling

 
mikona
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Jun 10, 2012 17:28 |  #1

2 Einsteins and use my EX 430 II for fill light.

Or, get 4 B800s?

I keep going BACK and FORTH and just can't seem to pull the damn trigger. And I have PERMISSION from the BOSS (my lovely wife) to make the purchase.

I have even looked at the D1 500 Profoto pack.

Considered buying 2 2 pack De-Lite IT 400 packs as well.

WHY is it so HARD to pull the trigger???

Help ME!!!!


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Jun 10, 2012 17:38 |  #2

Do you need 4 lights for your shooting? I personally am up to 12 bees and 4 580ex II flashes because I shoot large sets and product that needs that many lights. I would say go with 2 AB1600 and 1 AB800 to be honest. That kit will do almost anything and is about the same price as the Einsteins in the end and leaves a bit more for radio triggers/ stands/ modifiers.

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Jun 10, 2012 18:37 as a reply to  @ The Fox's post |  #3

Let's add a little more to the confusion...I think that 4 lights is a great basic set up. But I think that 800's for background and rim lights are overkill in an indoor studio, at least in a small to medium size space...So why not 1 B800, 2 B400's and 1 B1600. That set will keep you versatile enough for indoors or out (with a vagabond mini)...Put a 5-1 reflector in the mix and your golden...You can always add a cyber commander later to control all from that if you wish...:cool:


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Jun 11, 2012 12:33 |  #4

Four Einsteins! ;-)a


flickr (external link) KCharron.net (external link) - 5D mark III (gripped) | 24-70 2.8 VC | 85 1.8 | 50 1.4 | 70-200 2.8L
[LIGHTING: 3 Einsteins, AB400, CyberCommander, 2 VLMs w/2 spare bats, 2 64" PLMs, 24x32 softbox, 22" BD, grids and diffusers, Avenger stands and boom.]

  
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Jun 11, 2012 12:44 |  #5

Kechar wrote in post #14563400 (external link)
Four Einsteins! ;-)a

bw! Ha! I guess that's one way to do it :)


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Jun 11, 2012 21:06 |  #6

einsteins no questions about it

more power - can go lower - can be controlled wirelessly

you can do so much with a 2 light setup

really depends on what you shoot

i do location shoots and the occasion indoor beauty shoots and 2 lights are all i need

hope that helps!


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Jun 12, 2012 08:21 |  #7

One light and a reflector can do wonders!
Two lights and a reflector can do more wonders!


flickr (external link) KCharron.net (external link) - 5D mark III (gripped) | 24-70 2.8 VC | 85 1.8 | 50 1.4 | 70-200 2.8L
[LIGHTING: 3 Einsteins, AB400, CyberCommander, 2 VLMs w/2 spare bats, 2 64" PLMs, 24x32 softbox, 22" BD, grids and diffusers, Avenger stands and boom.]

  
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Jun 12, 2012 14:08 |  #8

what are you planning on shooting? Do you do event coverage?


Don't try to confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up.
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Jun 12, 2012 20:27 |  #9

I have two Einsteins and would love another down the road. That said, one light if you're moving up from a strobe is a lot do deal with let alone four. I would recommend that you buy two Einsteins and leave room in your budget for modifiers and stands. Its much easier to convince the boss that you need to spend an extra $500 in a years time for another Einstein than it will be to replace the entire kit.

Budget almost double your light budget for stands, background supports and triggers if you don't already have all the gear. The colour consistency and granular control of the Einstein is unmatched in its price range and well beyond.




  
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