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Jun 11, 2012 14:19 |  #4366

Interesting how the various attitudes to the delay seem to vary by nationality, with our US cousins being the quickest to want to blame someone. Bearing this in mind, we should not forget the Japanese desperate fear of "losing face". Put simply it is vital that no one at Canon gets blamed for this delay, so therefore no one is going to admit its a problem because that might put that person in the "blame" spotlight.


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Jun 11, 2012 14:29 |  #4367

They need to hire a few Apple people. New Macbooks announced today and ready to ship.

Err not 10 months later...


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Jun 11, 2012 14:58 |  #4368

Lowner wrote in post #14564014 (external link)
Interesting how the various attitudes to the delay seem to vary by nationality, with our US cousins being the quickest to want to blame someone. Bearing this in mind, we should not forget the Japanese desperate fear of "losing face". Put simply it is vital that no one at Canon gets blamed for this delay, so therefore no one is going to admit its a problem because that might put that person in the "blame" spotlight.

I wouldn't be surprised if you are on to something there Richard.
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Jun 11, 2012 15:05 |  #4369
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^this, my patience has worn a little thin as well given I sold my 1D4 more or less as soon as the 1Dx was announced to reap back what I paid for it. But boy have I been missing it.

Some are so naive in this world.
They must also expect it to be bug free when it does arrive.
Blame could be the new name for Canon.


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Jun 11, 2012 15:31 |  #4370

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They need to hire a few Apple people. New Macbooks announced today and ready to ship.

Err not 10 months later...

So what you mean to say is Canon needs to ship production over to China's FoxConn facilities as we ride the backs of cheap laborers working under less-than-stellar conditions in assembly lines that could blow up at any time? (But they'll get your product on time. Because you are all that matters.) :)


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Jun 11, 2012 15:33 |  #4371

jwcdds wrote in post #14564351 (external link)
So what you mean to say is Canon needs to ship production over to China's FoxConn facilities as we ride the backs of cheap laborers working under less-than-stellar conditions in assembly lines that could blow up at any time? (But they'll get your product on time. Because you are all that matters.) :)

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Jun 11, 2012 15:36 |  #4372

Are you certain that the 1DX is not assembled in China?




  
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Jun 11, 2012 15:38 |  #4373

bigrob wrote in post #14564062 (external link)
They need to hire a few Apple people. New Macbooks announced today and ready to ship.

Err not 10 months later...

Are you 110% sure they weren't actually "ready" 10 months ago?

Every company has lead time built into their product cycles. Why Canon chose to "jump the gun" on the 1DX is anybody's guess at this point. New Features? Bugs? Timing Vs Nikon?

Anyone who says doesn't know and anyone who knows won't say...


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Jun 11, 2012 15:48 |  #4374

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Are you certain that the 1DX is not assembled in China?

Positive. If it had been assembled in China, it would have been on the shelves by November 2011. :lol:


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Jun 11, 2012 15:50 |  #4375

The only mention I've ever seen of any Canon gear being built outside Japan are the occasional references to some 50 f/1.8s being made in Taiwan.

AFAIK, everything else is made strictly in Japan.


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Jun 11, 2012 16:03 |  #4376

EL_PIC wrote in post #14564215 (external link)
Some are so naive in this world.
They must also expect it to be bug free when it does arrive.
Blame could be the new name for Canon.

Some are like 50 grit sandpaper on here when replying. :rolleyes:


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Jun 11, 2012 16:21 |  #4377

Erik S. Klein wrote in post #14563101 (external link)
I'm waiting for mine. The only possible hitch is if Canon announces something better (for me) in the interim.

Meanwhile, I'd like to echo some of what has been posted here: I think that Canon should do what is needed to get the camera right before launch. I accept that there may be delays because of that. I don't, however, like those to be a complete mystery. Canon should say something about why they are totally off-target with this camera.

I do think it'll be a game-changer when released, however, and for that I'm willing to wait. Just not patiently... :)

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Jun 11, 2012 16:24 |  #4378

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #14564386 (external link)
Are you 110% sure they weren't actually "ready" 10 months ago?

Every company has lead time built into their product cycles. Why Canon chose to "jump the gun" on the 1DX is anybody's guess at this point. New Features? Bugs? Timing Vs Nikon?

Anyone who says doesn't know and anyone who knows won't say...

Ready to me means having the production lines up and ready and pumping them out.

It is entirely possible that they haven't actually had any problems with the camera but just moved production priority to the 5D3.


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Jun 11, 2012 16:33 |  #4379

bigrob wrote in post #14564591 (external link)
It is entirely possible that they haven't actually had any problems with the camera but just moved production priority to the 5D3.

THAT is the track my horse is running on!


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Jun 11, 2012 16:57 |  #4380

bigrob wrote in post #14564591 (external link)
It is entirely possible that they haven't actually had any problems with the camera but just moved production priority to the 5D3.

Mark II wrote in post #14564628 (external link)
THAT is the track my horse is running on!

I kinda doubt this. Production of the 1D Mk IV has ceased so the manufacturing capacity should be there. I think that they found some technical issue(s) in pre-production models that they are having to work out.


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