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85L or 24-70 L ii decision time.

 
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Jun 12, 2012 00:36 |  #1

Ok i have some funds laying around, I was actually saving for 24-70L ii. But i also really wanted to get the 85L because it was my dream lens for awhile now.

If it was you (and please dont refer me to a different type of lens ;) "cough" tamron), would you opt to get the 85L to complete the prime trinity or 24-70L ii to cover all the range and try the newest L lens ? decision decision decision!! :rolleyes:

just in case you want to know what type of shooting i do, a lot of portrait, streets, and small events


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Jun 12, 2012 00:36 |  #2

oops posted in wrong section lol..
can mod move it to lens section :X


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Jun 12, 2012 02:59 |  #3

i think it depends what youre shooting and how you like to shoot. i had the same decision and opted for the 85L because i like the thin DOF and the low light ability. i also have a little more time to walk myself into a good frame rather than having to shoot fast from wherever i am. i also dont mind carrying around a bunch of lenses nor swapping in the middle of a shoot for another length. Sometimes you want to carry only a few lenses...ie. for you, you could potentially carry two: 24-70II and 70-200II that would have your whole range covered at f/2.8 -- pretty good really.

But i'll also say that save for a 35L in place of your 24L i have the same basic kit as you for my MKIII. i take them all to most shoots unless i know i wont need one -- usually the 70-200 if there is one i leave. My personal take is you are missing the best peice of your trinity. but really, its all up to your shooting style/preference and pain tollerance.


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Jun 12, 2012 04:27 |  #4

thx for the reply.. completing my trinity seem like the way to go, i was planing to get another body so it minimize lens switching (5d3 or maybe the next 7dii?). in the other hand 24-70ii should be the newest and the baddest boy in the block. idk, this is tough one.. any more opinion in this matter? please share your thoughts

hmm your screen name seems so familiar.. pakshak?


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Jun 12, 2012 05:27 |  #5

k1msta wrote in post #14567026 (external link)
thx for the reply.. completing my trinity seem like the way to go, i was planing to get another body so it minimize lens switching (5d3 or maybe the next 7dii?). in the other hand 24-70ii should be the newest and the baddest boy in the block. idk, this is tough one.. any more opinion in this matter? please share your thoughts

hmm your screen name seems so familiar.. pakshak?

well, you kniw the 85LII is proven...24-70LII is unproven except for early tests...but it would sure lighten your load if the previews are what they seem. Like i said, new body or not, its all up to your back.

and yes, pakshak (spend waay to much money there too)...we should compare both kits ...photo and auto detailing, lol! EDIT: Nevermind...I remember who you are now...just the stuff you sold off and the fact that you use Vintage outclasses me! Though Blau is calling...


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Jun 12, 2012 07:22 |  #6

My first inclination is to buy the 85L. It is really special, but, does have issues. One problem with it is that you must take extra care (i.e., time) when attaching it/removing it to protect the rear element and to make sure to retract the extending front element before removal. There's also the question of critical focus and the limitations of the 5D2 only having a cross-type AF point at only the center position; that can limit how well you could shoot the 85L quickly wide open.

However, as you know, lens are very heavy and can take up a lot of room. I personally would always want to have an acceptable single lens standard zoom option. So I would either get the 24-105 or 24-70 to fill that role. For me, it would be a higher priority than the 85L.

If you can accept the limitations of shooting primes over the convenience of a zoom, I'd recommend the 85L. That upper body portraits with it or head shoots makes it worth while to me. I definitely see the 24-70 the safer solution for most people who aren't sure. If you are seriously in doubt, I'd rent a 24-70 and maybe a 85L to learn what you can live with.


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Jun 12, 2012 13:23 |  #7

the 85L is a very specialized lens (IMHO), the 24-70 is much more versatile. if you're shooting style and subject work with the 85L or you're ok taking out your 24/50/85 and shooting together then it might work for you.

for general walk-around i use my 24-70v1 all the time. it's my most used lens. The 85L is for when i *know* i will need it because i have a certain shot i want to capture.


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Jun 13, 2012 01:58 |  #8

Good points and advice.. thx guys
tell you the truth, i did have a walk around zoom (17-55) back when i had a 7d which was convenient, but after using prime lens and experiencing the speed, IQ, and bokeh. Its kinda hard to to go back.. ya sure i could buy 24-70 down the road, but looking at the pictures of 24-70 ii wants me to get it..

ok lets make this simple.. which one of those 2 lens would you buy first? 85L magical lens or the 24-70Lii the newest best workarounds lens?


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Jun 13, 2012 02:09 |  #9

i have almost the same lens lineup as you.

i used to have the 24-70L, but sold it as it wasn't anything special, especially in comparison to the L primes.

I may pick up the 24-70LII if it proves to be a stellar lens, but for my shooting, i'm more than happy with my primes, including the 85LII.


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Jun 13, 2012 02:26 |  #10
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Between these 2 lens, I'd get the 24-70II.

What's better? Tamron 24-70 VC + sigma 85.


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Jun 13, 2012 03:02 |  #11

24-70 II would be my vote

(but yeah, tamron 24-70 VC + 85L would be even better)


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Jun 13, 2012 05:37 as a reply to  @ mike cabilangan's post |  #12

85L II without any hesitation :)


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Jun 13, 2012 05:44 |  #13

k1msta wrote in post #14566524 (external link)
would you opt to get the 85L to complete the prime trinity

Isn't the 'trinity' 35, 85 & 135? Or do any 3 L primes make it up?


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Jun 13, 2012 05:50 |  #14

85L. Since the 85L is what you're really envying right now, get it. You're not going to be satisfied until you get it. That includes after getting the 24-70 II when that lens is released.


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Jun 13, 2012 06:00 |  #15

Do it like me. 24-70L I and 85LII :D

If I had to choose one I would pick the 85LII


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