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Jun 15, 2012 09:23 |  #16

mike_d wrote in post #14578920 (external link)
Apple really has that whole "one part breaks and you're in for a new machine" thing down pat.

Well, with no moving parts, it's hard to imagine what's going to break unless you drop it, immerse it, or otherwise damage it yourself.


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Jun 15, 2012 09:51 |  #17

ben_r_ wrote in post #14578903 (external link)
lol I guess thats where the OP was getting that number, bc last I check the new Retina Display MBP started very well equipped at $2200.

Yeah, but who buys the base model? I think that most of the ones sold will be at $2799 (2.6GHz, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD). I'm betting that Apple is going to be making the hard sell in stores that 256GB of storage isn't enough and that since the drive isn't upgradable, they should get the better model.

I added the 2.7GHz CPU on top of that, as well as the upgrade to 16GB of RAM. I stuck with the 512GB SSD though, the upgrade price on the 768GB was just too high to justify.

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that is why they sell Apple Care

Agreed. I'm not going to keep this machine longer than 3 years anyway.


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Jun 15, 2012 10:10 |  #18

Your pricing point is well taken. Of course, try to build a well built Windows laptop with those features and the price creeps up as well.


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Jun 15, 2012 10:57 |  #19

Numenorean wrote in post #14577584 (external link)
Apple notebooks have always been horrible to work on. As well as iMacs. Some of the dumbest designs I've ever seen in that regard.

Not all of them. The last 4 or so iterations have been very easy to work on. This one is difficult because that's the price of making the most compact laptop on the market with this feature set.


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Jun 15, 2012 22:35 |  #20

Of the hundreds of laptops I've worked on none have been a pleasure to work on. It's the nature of the beast. Look to other oems doing the same thing in the persuit of ever thinner laptops. I'll probably be getting one as soon as the coffers can handle it.




  
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Jun 15, 2012 22:45 |  #21

Damian75 wrote in post #14581452 (external link)
Actually most of the current mac laptops are pretty easy to work on as well as the iMacs going back to the G5, you just have to have access to the parts other than that it takes about 10min to strip an iMac down. The old G4 lampshade iMacs could be a pain especially if you had to replace the neck. I will admit I am not liking the fact that the RAM is on the board in the Retina MBP, as far as the SSD goes I am sure there will be 3rd party ones out soon OWC makes some for the Air.

There was a MacBook or iMacBook or iBook or whatever they call them...to replace the optical drive, the motherboard had to be completely removed. That's just stupid.


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Jun 15, 2012 22:50 |  #22

Hen3Ry wrote in post #14582838 (external link)
Well, with no moving parts, it's hard to imagine what's going to break unless you drop it, immerse it, or otherwise damage it yourself.

Electronics fail of their own accord all the time. I fixed a desktop PC just this week that has an original piece of RAM suddenly die. Good thing I could fix (and upgrade it in the process) for $35 worth of RAM instead of having to junk the whole thing.




  
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Jun 15, 2012 22:55 |  #23

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There was a MacBook or iMacBook or iBook or whatever they call them...to replace the optical drive, the motherboard had to be completely removed. That's just stupid.

My friend has an iMac. Its not the lampshade one but the more recent 24" Intel based kind. He wanted help upgrading the hard drive. Turns out, you have to almost completely take it apart including removing the screen to get to it. I guess sticking a door on the back would have ruined the aesthetics. :rolleyes:




  
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Jun 18, 2012 13:37 |  #24

Numenorean wrote in post #14577584 (external link)
Apple notebooks have always been horrible to work on. As well as iMacs. Some of the dumbest designs I've ever seen in that regard.

Tell that to Sir Jonathan Ive. That "dumb design" as you call it is partly responsible for the huge sales success of the Apple products.


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Jun 18, 2012 17:10 |  #25

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Tell that to Sir Jonathan Ive. That "dumb design" as you call it is partly responsible for the huge sales success of the Apple products.

Just shows that people only care if something is shiny and smooth on the outside.




  
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Jun 18, 2012 17:20 |  #26

mike_d wrote in post #14597380 (external link)
Just shows that people only care if something is shiny and smooth on the outside.

No, it shows that Apple knows that the consumer experience trumps all else. That's why they're the most valuable company in the world.


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Jun 18, 2012 17:22 |  #27

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No, it shows that Apple knows that the consumer experience trumps all else. That's why they're the most valuable company in the world.

As long as that experience is the experience apple dictates. Apple has become what they mocked in their 1984 commercial.




  
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Jun 18, 2012 21:24 |  #28

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As long as that experience is the experience apple dictates. Apple has become what they mocked in their 1984 commercial.

Dictates? You're surely joking. People are free to choose what they want to buy. Nobody is holding a gun to the customer's head to buy an iPhone, iPad, or Mac. Don't like Apple stuff, fine, go buy HP or Samsung or Lenovo, or whatever. People buy Apple's products because of the total experience they provide. They purchase freely, without any "dictating" from Apple or anyone else, despite what you think.


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Jun 24, 2012 15:39 |  #29

Tony-S wrote in post #14597430 (external link)
No, it shows that Apple knows that the consumer experience trumps all else. That's why they're the most valuable company in the world.

Sorry but no. Number 17 on the Forbes list does not make you the most valuable. What you mean is valued in stock price. Their stock is valued higher than anyone else but Exxon Mobile still trumps everyone in revenue and profits.


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Jun 24, 2012 18:07 |  #30

Most valuable market cap.


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