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Jun 14, 2012 18:30 |  #226

we still in 2010 with that meme?

i like how things are shaping up with Nikon. The D600 could sway me away from the D800 as an upgrade later on this year.


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Jun 14, 2012 18:38 |  #227

:lol: hoping for price war ... great for consumers :).

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Jun 14, 2012 18:49 |  #228

so when will nikon stick a FX sensor into an entry level camera body like a d3200? low specs, big sensor. haha


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Jun 14, 2012 19:09 |  #229

imjason wrote in post #14580419 (external link)
we still in 2010 with that meme?

i like how things are shaping up with Nikon. The D600 could sway me away from the D800 as an upgrade later on this year.

I think you are missing the point. I think Nikon finally understood what consumer wants : More pixel. Even if the other competitor has a better sensor (Not saying Canon is better) at lower pixel count, this is what consumer are seeing first. Who doesn't want more resolution ? right ? It was the same when 1080p came out. TV manufacturer were advertising 1080p compatible (the TV was downsizing the signal to the native 768p resolution of the TV). Consumer saw 1080p thinking they were getting FullHD.

D600 is also hitting a empty market : Intermediate level photographer who wants to jump to a full frame format but can't afford the pro level stuff. Don't fool yourself here. This also apply to D800 user who can't afford an medium format Hasselblad. Its a very interesting strategy. What is good for Nikon is good for Canon. So bring it on.


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Jun 14, 2012 19:22 |  #230

fogboundturtle wrote in post #14580549 (external link)
I think you are missing the point. I think Nikon finally understood what consumer wants : More pixel. Even if the other competitor has a better sensor (Not saying Canon is better) at lower pixel count, this is what consumer are seeing first. Who doesn't want more resolution ? right ? It was the same when 1080p came out. TV manufacturer were advertising 1080p compatible (the TV was downsizing the signal to the native 768p resolution of the TV). Consumer saw 1080p thinking they were getting FullHD.

D600 is also hitting a empty market : Intermediate level photographer who wants to jump to a full frame format but can't afford the pro level stuff. Don't fool yourself here. This also apply to D800 user who can't afford an medium format Hasselblad. Its a very interesting strategy. What is good for Nikon is good for Canon. So bring it on.

And can be good for the Consumer if they really nail the quality and performance.




  
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Jun 14, 2012 23:22 |  #231

DarthVader wrote in post #14580435 (external link)
:lol: hoping for price war ... great for consumers :).

Drop $500 off 5D3 will be good start :D


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Jun 14, 2012 23:28 |  #232

fogboundturtle wrote in post #14580549 (external link)
I think you are missing the point. I think Nikon finally understood what consumer wants : More pixel. Even if the other competitor has a better sensor (Not saying Canon is better) at lower pixel count, this is what consumer are seeing first. Who doesn't want more resolution ? right ? It was the same when 1080p came out. TV manufacturer were advertising 1080p compatible (the TV was downsizing the signal to the native 768p resolution of the TV). Consumer saw 1080p thinking they were getting FullHD....

Not quite...

It's more like having two 50" TV's, one that is 720P, and one that is 1080P.

Your example would suggest a 24mp camera that actually only has an 18MP sensor.

Having said that, most people aren't seeing 1080P on their 1080P TV's anyway, even if they are using a BD player, but I digress...
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Jun 15, 2012 06:49 |  #233

Approved by me :).

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Drop $500 off 5D3 will be good start :D


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Jun 15, 2012 08:30 |  #234

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But I didn't ask *you* the question. I asked someone else as a direct response to their post. I even quoted the person (BXPhoto) when I posed that question.

But you posted it in a public forum in a public thread, thus making it viable for anyone to answer. Or are you saying we aren't allowed to comment on posts not directly addressed to us now?

So the fact that you decided to answer a question posed for someone else tells me you are bent out of shape about the $3500 price tag. That you are unhappy over a camera that you don't own and don't plan on buying (at its price tag). And to me, that is **** and moaning about it.

I like how you're able to read my mind from a post. You must teach me your jedi skills.
I don't plan on spending over maybe $1500 on a camera anytime soon. But I am still entitled to an opinion on cameras I don't intend to buy, am I not? And since this is an open forum, I tend to express my opinion on things which I have some interest in even if the original post is not addressed to me directly or at all. If expressing an opinion that differs from yours is considered **** and moaning, then fine, I'm **** and moaning.

Showing interest in the equipment used to take photos isn't wrong and there are no unwritten law. If an equipment is not worth $3500, then why would you be interested in it, or offended by it? We are, after all, in the D400/D600, which for the past few responses to me, you haven't even made any mention of. So are you interested in the $3500 overpriced camera or are you interested in the rumored $1500 D600?

Just because something is overpriced doesn't mean I can't be interested in it. The item itself is still very interesting, thus I have an opinion about it.

But I did mention them. Its the very last point in my post, which you even quoted. ;)

Or were you simply **** and moaning that the 5D3 isn't worth $3500 to you? ;)

I'll admit I'm **** and moaning about the 5D3 if you'll admit you're **** and moaning about people with different viewpoints to yours :)


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Jun 15, 2012 08:54 |  #235

EtherealZee wrote in post #14581487 (external link)
Not quite...

It's more like having two 50" TV's, one that is 720P, and one that is 1080P.

Your example would suggest a 24mp camera that actually only has an 18MP sensor.

Having said that, most people aren't seeing 1080P on their 1080P TV's anyway, even if they are using a BD player, but I digress...
Z...

Either way, DSLR are really bad at shooting video.The D800 suffer from antialiasing and moire while the Mark III output is not very sharp. The advantage of the Mark III is that you can sharpen in post production and you can get some decent quality. Its much harder to get rid of Moire. You can search on youtube for D800 Moire if you want example.


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Jun 16, 2012 03:58 |  #236

fogboundturtle wrote in post #14582688 (external link)
Either way, DSLR are really bad at shooting video.

Even with moire, Hollywood and many film makers would disagree with you.


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Jun 16, 2012 05:58 |  #237

fogboundturtle wrote in post #14582688 (external link)
Either way, DSLR are really bad at shooting video.The D800 suffer from antialiasing and moire while the Mark III output is not very sharp. The advantage of the Mark III is that you can sharpen in post production and you can get some decent quality. Its much harder to get rid of Moire. You can search on youtube for D800 Moire if you want example.

No problem, I was discussing your point in relation to still photography, I'm not particularly interested in video.

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Jun 22, 2012 06:18 |  #238

It's also possible its sensor totally designed by Nikon like their other cameras (D3, D3s, D700, D3100, and D3200).

http://nikonrumors.com …00-is-made-by-nikon.aspx/ (external link)


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Jul 23, 2012 22:47 |  #239

Maybe D600 will show up.

"There will be no new Nikon announcements in July. In August and probably September Nikon will start introducing new products in almost every category. For the Photokina show in Cologne (September 18-23, 2012) Nikon will have new DSLR camera(s), lens(es), Coolpix models and mirrorless products on display. Expect more details in the upcoming weeks."

http://nikonrumors.com …duled-for-photokina.aspx/ (external link)


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Jul 27, 2012 14:33 |  #240

I have mentioned that neither Canon nor Nikon can "trust the other" not to bring out a $2,000 FF body. We keep forgetting Sony.

Video and Still photography is clearly converging and reasonably quickly.

Not really screw things up, but Nikon 36pm sensor.... isn't it a Sony sensor? I could be very wrong on this point.

"What if" Sony did the body adapter vs. lens adapter... come on hang on for a moment.

Engineered the mount to sensor distance to allow for Nikon/Canon/Sony adapters to used. Provided software to drive all of these lens completely & accurately - body would recognize the lens, etc - all the pro adjustments, etc, etc.

Then the photographer would be able to choose which ever lens was the very best (I know focus zoom directions differ). Sony would provide the "body experience" software, sensor, etc that would come the standard. hmmm.

No I am not smoking dope, but it has been a long week and I am sleep deprived.


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