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White Balance for weddings. How you do it?

 
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Jun 18, 2012 07:25 |  #16

+1 on cim photography's answer. and shoot raw. always raw.


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Jun 18, 2012 08:20 |  #17

I hardly ever use anything other than AWB. Especially for a wedding when things change so quickly, both indoors and out. If a cloud rolls over head and your set to daylight you photos will be very cold.

AWB and RAW, and adjust the sliders in LR to suit. If you have several consecutive photos that are in the same scene you can always select all, right click and sync settings.


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Jun 18, 2012 08:38 |  #18

Spoons make you fat. Cars make you drive drunk. Raw makes you a pro.

I shot weddings for years, all JPEG, shot on AWB. Each frame was color balanced in post since I guaranteed consistent color for the bride's dress in every photo. Using a grey card in every photo is a silly recommendation, clearly made by someone who's never shot an event.

You're going to do color balancing in your images whether or not you shoot JPEG or Raw. Assuming you *do* color balancing on your images, of course. I did 100% color balancing, usually using a white object like a dress, table cloth or shirt. I found Canon's AWB a bit warm when used with flash, so I had pre-set correction amounts to suit my taste.

Oh and by the way, you can't use your eyeballs to color balance! I used mathematical balancing using my photo editor, 100% consistent every time. Your eyes will fool you, your monitor is off, your age affects your color perception. Don't just use some slider bar to guess what white is!

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Jun 18, 2012 12:30 |  #19

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Spoons make you fat. Cars make you drive drunk. Raw makes you a pro.

I shot weddings for years, all JPEG, shot on AWB. Each frame was color balanced in post since I guaranteed consistent color for the bride's dress in every photo. Using a grey card in every photo is a silly recommendation, clearly made by someone who's never shot an event.

You're going to do color balancing in your images whether or not you shoot JPEG or Raw. Assuming you *do* color balancing on your images, of course. I did 100% color balancing, usually using a white object like a dress, table cloth or shirt. I found Canon's AWB a bit warm when used with flash, so I had pre-set correction amounts to suit my taste.

Oh and by the way, you can't use your eyeballs to color balance! I used mathematical balancing using my photo editor, 100% consistent every time. Your eyes will fool you, your monitor is off, your age affects your color perception. Don't just use some slider bar to guess what white is!


Photographed plenty of weddings and events - but thanks for playing.

I didn't say every image - lol. I said every scene. So if one side of the room has a different light temp as the other - get one on both. Light temp outside at noon is different than 3PM - so get both.

It's very easy to do...


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Jun 18, 2012 13:17 |  #20

I'm not quite sure if you're being facetious here. Are you saying that if you mathematically put it to white and you just DON'T think subjectively it looks good, you'll leave it at the mathematically prescribed settings ?

It's true, I go by the numbers as well, for some kind of buoy in a sea of color shifts; but if that math gets me to an image that doesn't look right to me in the end to suit my artistic goals--forget about it. We're not making photos for computers to appreciate; we're making photos for people.

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Spoons make you fat. Cars make you drive drunk. Raw makes you a pro.

I shot weddings for years, all JPEG, shot on AWB. Each frame was color balanced in post since I guaranteed consistent color for the bride's dress in every photo. Using a grey card in every photo is a silly recommendation, clearly made by someone who's never shot an event.

You're going to do color balancing in your images whether or not you shoot JPEG or Raw. Assuming you *do* color balancing on your images, of course. I did 100% color balancing, usually using a white object like a dress, table cloth or shirt. I found Canon's AWB a bit warm when used with flash, so I had pre-set correction amounts to suit my taste.

Oh and by the way, you can't use your eyeballs to color balance! I used mathematical balancing using my photo editor, 100% consistent every time. Your eyes will fool you, your monitor is off, your age affects your color perception. Don't just use some slider bar to guess what white is!



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Jun 18, 2012 13:22 |  #21

I also want to challenge the sarcastic "Raw makes you a pro." line.

No one is arguing logically that being a pro --> shooting RAW (as a necessary condition)

Question: When shooting a wedding I can give examples for which shooting in RAW will lead to a better final image than had you shot in .jpg (everyone concedes this). Can you name a scenario during a wedding shoot for which your shooting .jpg will result in a better final image than had you shot RAW ?



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Jun 18, 2012 16:01 |  #22

I am mostly on AWB. Easy enough to fix later in post.




  
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Jun 19, 2012 08:49 |  #23

I also shoot in AWB but find that I do a lot of fixing in post work. I tend to be very picky about WB so probably 90%+ of my shots are fixed in post afterwards.




  
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Jun 19, 2012 09:17 as a reply to  @ jra's post |  #24

AWB+RAW and then batch-process groups of shots in post. Occasionally some shots may need further WB touch-up but it's much easier than trying to adjust it on camera all the time.


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Jun 19, 2012 12:30 |  #25

I use AWB on both my 5DmkII - 50D and they both do a good job getting close to what I want.

I have to believe that anyone who has serious problems with white balance is trying to shoot .jpg with minimal post processing. At this point in time, it's probably one of the easiest parameters to correct.


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Jun 19, 2012 12:42 |  #26

Ultimately, setting custom WB per scene is helpful but you balance in post. It will save time, perhaps, especially if you have a grey card target, but literally every photo is different. Stand 2 feet closer to a lamp and you have a different color temperature.

The only guaranteed method is mathematical color balancing to a known material like a dress or shirt.

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Photographed plenty of weddings and events - but thanks for playing.

I didn't say every image - lol. I said every scene. So if one side of the room has a different light temp as the other - get one on both. Light temp outside at noon is different than 3PM - so get both.

It's very easy to do...


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Jun 19, 2012 12:49 |  #27

This past weekend I finally broke down and bought one of those little black/white/gray card sets. As an experiment last evening, I shot a bunch of pics, some using AWB and some with custom WB on my 50D set to 5900K, some all natural light, some fill flash (off camera) and some full off-camera flash. Each time I changed the WB setting in camera or the lighting setup, I shot a test pic with the WB cards.

Then, in ACR I used the group edit function to set WB off the grey card for each series of shots (each set shot in the same lighting with the same WB setting in camera). In doing this, I could not tell any difference in the final WB results between shots with AWB and shots with custom WB in camera. From my admittedly unscientific experiment, it does seem that if you can set WB off a truly neutral tone in LR or ACR, that controls over any in-camera settings.


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Jun 19, 2012 12:51 |  #28

We use AWB on our D700s. We're not very picky about it, and rarely do anything to the images in post. For our most recent engagement session, however, we did use two different color presets in post instead of one, which is our standard, simply because the first preset worked well for the daytime and made things too warm in the evening shots.


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Jun 19, 2012 12:56 |  #29

I shoot in K.

A quick jump into live view and choose set the K value according. Barely have to change a thing in post with WB these days.


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Jun 19, 2012 13:28 |  #30

I shot my last wedding in AWB for an indoor reception... It just requires extra time spent on PP.


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