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Jun 20, 2012 20:37 |  #1

Spent 45 minutes shooting this sunset in 85+ heat. Learned that sunsets are harder than one might think. Not super thrilled with this shot and I did a fair amount of editing in LR to get it here. Clearly I need to learn how to get better sunset shots in the first place. I am definetely open to any and all suggestions!

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Jun 20, 2012 22:17 |  #2

It's a lovely shot actually! Sunset are tough to shoot appropriately without a GND because there is like 3-4 stops between the sky and the ground (sky gets over exposed, ground under exposed). I would boost the saturation just a bit and increase exposure of the shadows. Something like below perhaps? I exaggerated the exposure and saturation to demonstrate what I mean.


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Jun 21, 2012 14:06 |  #3

As sunsets go, this one's pretty nice. You have some foreground interest, which is the major feature lacking in most sunset shots. And you still managed to get a little detail in the trees.

I'm not a big fan of graduated neutral density filters. Unless you've got a setting that precisely matches the optical characteristics of the filter, something's going to be off. In this particular case, how would the filter handle the light from the sky and from the river? I'd be more inclined to use an HDR approach, but not the overcooked stuff that one typically sees. You'd basically just need it to lighten the trees if that's the effect you wanted.


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Jun 21, 2012 17:16 |  #4

I would shoot brackets and just blend because getting proper exposure for everything is impossible


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Jun 21, 2012 17:23 |  #5

joedlh wrote in post #14612393 (external link)
In this particular case, how would the filter handle the light from the sky and from the river?

Very good point, didn't think of the water reflection :oops:




  
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Jun 21, 2012 18:33 |  #6

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I would shoot brackets and just blend because getting proper exposure for everything is impossible

As it happens, I did bracket quite unintentionally. I shot multiple images at different exposures from under exposed to over exposed without moving the camera (tripod and timer) Can you give a couple of clues on blending?


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Jun 21, 2012 18:45 |  #7

light variables....sky vs ground at that time are tough....experiment with metering off water, ...nice work...remember shutter speed controls\effects light to the sensor, so perhaps increase that to start with? .... over aperture for future experimental time


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Jun 21, 2012 19:05 |  #8

I like this one but there is still lots of room for brightening those foreground trees. LR4 Shadow slider works wonders.


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Jun 21, 2012 19:07 |  #9

Titus213 wrote in post #14613569 (external link)
I like this one but there is still lots of room for brightening those foreground trees. LR4 Shadow slider works wonders.

excellant point on fill lighting


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Jun 21, 2012 19:43 |  #10

Titus213 wrote in post #14613569 (external link)
I like this one but there is still lots of room for brightening those foreground trees. LR4 Shadow slider works wonders.

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How is this? Actually I just color calibrated my monitor. What a difference!

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Jun 21, 2012 22:26 |  #11

From your original posted image I bumped the Shadows +65 (LR4.1) which brought it up to what I like. Personal taste here - if you like the darker foreground that's fine too. It's a nice shot - I'd get it where I like it and print it..


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Jun 21, 2012 22:43 |  #12

Northwoods Bill wrote in post #14613448 (external link)
As it happens, I did bracket quite unintentionally. I shot multiple images at different exposures from under exposed to over exposed without moving the camera (tripod and timer) Can you give a couple of clues on blending?

If you have Photoshop this tutorial will explain it better than I could. It's kind of like knowing how to get somewhere, but you don't know the street names, just where to turn. I could explain it, but I'd have to go through the process to remember it exactly.

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Jun 22, 2012 00:03 |  #13

I like it, very nice!


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Jun 22, 2012 04:31 |  #14

Dave, Thanks for the edit. I am going to try a couple different versions to print. I will let you know what I finalize on and how it turns out.

Elrey, I will give the tutorial a watch. I am working in LR4 and PS Elements but I am sure at least some of it will carry over.


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Jun 22, 2012 10:58 |  #15

The sky is over saturated IMO


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