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Feb 21, 2012 21:51 |  #61

That plastic foot breaking is better than other stuff breaking IMHO. That is why it designed like that. Just like hot shoe mount of the canon flashes. Even being metal it breaks to repvent damage to the flash and camera hot shoe.


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Feb 21, 2012 22:01 |  #62

bobbyz wrote in post #13940601 (external link)
That plastic foot breaking is better than other stuff breaking IMHO. That is why it designed like that. Just like hot shoe mount of the canon flashes. Even being metal it breaks to repvent damage to the flash and camera hot shoe.

Ya thats the excuse I got from the Canadian PW supplier (daymen).

IIRC canada has 5 year warranty on the PW products. They will cover the broken foot but it takes time to ship to them. I'd rather buy it and replace it myself.

The small package of the PW doesn't warrant excuses of using a brittle foot. Its so small I dont see the concern of major damage if they used a metal foot. If so the canon 580ex2 and 430exii should have put a plastic foot but canon did not.

just a pet peeve of mine. I'm not too excited about the plus III's but I guess they are a fresh item to go against the offshore triggers thats taking market share.


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Feb 21, 2012 22:07 |  #63

bobbyz wrote in post #13940601 (external link)
That plastic foot breaking is better than other stuff breaking IMHO. That is why it designed like that. Just like hot shoe mount of the canon flashes. Even being metal it breaks to repvent damage to the flash and camera hot shoe.

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Feb 21, 2012 23:09 |  #64

AlanU wrote in post #13940688 (external link)
Ya thats the excuse I got from the Canadian PW supplier (daymen).

IIRC canada has 5 year warranty on the PW products. They will cover the broken foot but it takes time to ship to them. I'd rather buy it and replace it myself.

The small package of the PW doesn't warrant excuses of using a brittle foot. Its so small I dont see the concern of major damage if they used a metal foot. If so the canon 580ex2 and 430exii should have put a plastic foot but canon did not.

just a pet peeve of mine. I'm not too excited about the plus III's but I guess they are a fresh item to go against the offshore triggers thats taking market share.

The Canon foot is metal, but it's just *barely* attached inside, I wish I would have taken a better pic of the internal part, it's only attached by 4 small plastic points. It breaks fairly easily. I've broken my fair share of them from little impact. I've bumped into people and ripped it right out. I bent over to pick something up with my camera strapped around my neck and the result is what you see when the flash hit my bed.

Any stronger and you risk damaging the shoe of the camera, which I've had happen as well. That repair wasn't cheap, either.

The 580EX II shoe really isn't any more durable than anything else I've owned, and the frustrating part is the metal foot assembly is 40 bucks vs 8 for the plastic.

I've often wondered if it would be possible for them (PW) to make semi-rigid silicone one that would simply flex and rip out of the shoe rather than break upon impact.

You're really towing a fine line with these things. You have to find a balance that will not break the camera, or the entire housing of the unit.


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Feb 22, 2012 00:53 |  #65

bdillon wrote in post #13941197 (external link)
The Canon foot is metal, but it's just *barely* attached inside, I wish I would have taken a better pic of the internal part, it's only attached by 4 small plastic points. It breaks fairly easily. I've broken my fair share of them from little impact. I've bumped into people and ripped it right out. I bent over to pick something up with my camera strapped around my neck and the result is what you see when the flash hit my bed.

Any stronger and you risk damaging the shoe of the camera, which I've had happen as well. That repair wasn't cheap, either.

The 580EX II shoe really isn't any more durable than anything else I've owned, and the frustrating part is the metal foot assembly is 40 bucks vs 8 for the plastic.

I've often wondered if it would be possible for them (PW) to make semi-rigid silicone one that would simply flex and rip out of the shoe rather than break upon impact.

You're really towing a fine line with these things. You have to find a balance that will not break the camera, or the entire housing of the unit.

Ouch!!!!

its ok I've already have a history of grenading the cct boards on MANY 580EXii flashes (all purchased brand new).

Maybe thats why daymen in Canada supports those triggers under warranty for so many years.


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Feb 22, 2012 01:08 |  #66

I've yet to do that, but for some reason lately I keep breaking those damn feet off the flash. I think my average has been one a month for the past 6 months. I actually keep a spare assembly around now.




  
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Feb 22, 2012 09:19 |  #67

happy with my plus2's love the antennae . Not to crazy about the new design but like the features may try them out for the price .


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Jun 23, 2012 16:30 |  #68

Does the Pockewizard Plus III take the same cable as the Plus II?


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Jun 23, 2012 16:58 |  #69

yes


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Jun 23, 2012 17:46 |  #70

MT Stringer wrote in post #14621906 (external link)
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Jun 27, 2012 11:46 |  #71

ok, i got some PW plusIIIs in the mail, and this is my first foray into the world of radio triggers. a couple of questions:

1 - how can i use these to trigger my 580EX I?
2 - i wish there was a way to adjust the power of the flashes from the camera...doesn't seem possible unless i am missing something.
3 - i know these are non-ETTL, but it will fire the flashes if they are left on ETTL mode. what output are they firing at? random? full power?

so far i like them. they have fired every time i've tried them.


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Jun 27, 2012 12:04 |  #72

They are just triggers. You adjust the power of your flash output manually.
You might need a screw lock cable or do as I did and get a hot shoe adapter for the flash. Flashzebra .com has the parts.


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Jun 27, 2012 12:08 |  #73

narlus wrote in post #14639617 (external link)
ok, i got some PW plusIIIs in the mail, and this is my first foray into the world of radio triggers. a couple of questions:

1 - how can i use these to trigger my 580EX I?
2 - i wish there was a way to adjust the power of the flashes from the camera...doesn't seem possible unless i am missing something.
3 - i know these are non-ETTL, but it will fire the flashes if they are left on ETTL mode. what output are they firing at? random? full power?

so far i like them. they have fired every time i've tried them.

the original 580 EX doesn't have a sync port. you'd need to get an adapter.

something like this: http://www.amazon.com …&keywords=flash​+sync+port (external link)

can't adjust power of the flash from your camera. if you want that capability (along with off-camera ETTL), get Pixel Kings or Phottix Odins.


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Jun 27, 2012 12:17 |  #74

cool, looks like the foot w/ port is the way to go.


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Jun 27, 2012 20:24 |  #75

I'm waiting for Pocket Wizard to upgrade the TT5 and Flex units so they are completely compatible with the 580EXII (and, maybe, the new 600EX-RT). I used the PWII forever but got tired of not being able to change my OCF settings without having to walk over to them. This led me to the TT5 units (and the AC3 Zone Controller). After two years of using the TT5s, and having about a 65% success rate (meaning my 580EXII fired about 65% of the time, off-camera), I decided to get three of the 600EX-RT speedlights. So far these have been great, even when used in conjunction with my 5D2 (I can use HSS with them and I can achieve max-sync speed when I'm not using HSS; both of these are considered not possible, according to the 600EX-RT manual, but the manual is wrong).


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