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Jun 14, 2012 20:05 |  #1

Ok, we are heating up our wedding workflow, I just purchased a 27" imac with a crucial M4 SSD and 1tb stock hard drive used on FM. Now I want to put together a bulletproof storage system.

I am thinking of a reconditioned Lacie LBD as my working drive, just to work on the images quickly and be able to write quickly to. When I am done and exporting, I want to set up a good system to store, preferably on more than one HD. What type of cost effective solution should I put together? I am photographing weddings and using lots of space, so I would prefer a drive enclosure with reliable internal drives. Speed is no concern for these ones.


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Jun 14, 2012 20:36 |  #2

Why are you considering using an external disk for images? Just use the internal disk, and SSD for cache and catalog.

Once you're done with images export them to an external drive for archive.

All hard drives should have an offsite mirror, updated after every major event or weekly when processing. I have multiple internal disks, so if I've been busy I keep backups on my external disks, and I sometimes upload XMP files to my web server.


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Jun 14, 2012 22:12 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #3

Sounds good, the idea was to keep the HD clean, but if the OS is on the SSD, I guess there is no need. What about a WD studio mybook II for archives?

If I process in RAID 1, what should I do with the drives when they are full? Keep both and purchase 2 new ones or format 1 and buy only 1 additional one?


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Jun 14, 2012 22:15 as a reply to  @ MichaelAnthonyPhotography's post |  #4

The big factor is to turn OFF external drives when you not writing or reading from them. External drives are notorious for heat build-up; they use heat sinks rather than fans. Leaving them on all day is a sure-fire way to have them fail.


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Jun 14, 2012 22:39 |  #5

I use a ssd for my OS and programs and an internal HD for my data (2 x 2TB drives in RAID 1). On a regular schedule (using Task Scheduler) that HD is backed up to another internal HD using Microsoft Synctoy (echo). I then have a WD Mybook external drive that I archive to and keep in a different room in my house. If I did this for a living I'd keep it somewhere else like my detached garage.


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Jun 21, 2012 12:07 |  #6

I prefer a NAS to an external hard drive.


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Jun 21, 2012 14:41 |  #7

A NAS will burn like anything else. Remember data needs to be backed up offsite for it to be safe.


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Jun 22, 2012 07:22 |  #8

Bob_A wrote in post #14581357 (external link)
I use a ssd for my OS and programs and an internal HD for my data (2 x 2TB drives in RAID 1). On a regular schedule (using Task Scheduler) that HD is backed up to another internal HD using Microsoft Synctoy (echo). I then have a WD Mybook external drive that I archive to and keep in a different room in my house. If I did this for a living I'd keep it somewhere else like my detached garage.

A NAS can be in a different room or a garage. Just need a network drop (preferably 1G).


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Jun 23, 2012 14:53 |  #9

GeeMack wrote in post #14615447 (external link)
A NAS can be in a different room or a garage. Just need a network drop (preferably 1G).

I use a NAS to store media to play on all of the PC's in my home. I don't use it for backup since my desktop that I edit with is wireless N and file transfer with the NAS over wireless is really slow. The Linksys E4200 router that the NAS is attached to is also only USB2, which doesn't help.

If I were wired to my desktop I'd use NAS for backup.


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Jun 23, 2012 15:07 as a reply to  @ Bob_A's post |  #10

The bigger question is how much data do you generate each week. The biggest mistake is not to backup, and I am a very strong believer in having it automatic so you eliminate the human error factor.

I use a Synology NAS drive and have a duplicate drive box at my parents house on the other side of town. My internet provider allows for unlimited network transfers between 1:00am and 6:00am. So during that window I have my NAS blast over a differential mirror for any changes made. As it's sent block, it gives me a roll back backup for any changes made.

I use gigabit ethernet for all the machines and don't find getting files to be much slower than local.

Everything has a cost, and the more you are willing to pay, you can design a system to be much safer than going out on the cheep.


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Jun 24, 2012 12:23 |  #11

Panoz wrote in post #14581281 (external link)
The big factor is to turn OFF external drives when you not writing or reading from them. External drives are notorious for heat build-up; they use heat sinks rather than fans. Leaving them on all day is a sure-fire way to have them fail.

My seagate network drive is barley warm to the touch if at all. No need to shut them off with their power saving features. I have mine set to sync once a week so the drive rarely comes out of power saving. I always found it better to leave equipment running always had less equipment failure since the equipment was not constantly heating up and cooling down.

I tried a WD external drive and took it back within a week. The power saving was buggy and the drive was extreamly slow


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