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Jun 18, 2012 23:38 |  #1

I just finished up a very detailed and thorough review of the new Speedlite 600EX-RT. I used a combination of three 600EX-RT's in a variety of environments from weddings at night to sports in broad daylight with high-speed sync at 1/8000 sec.

In short, the new wireless radio system is pretty awesome and will save you money and time compared to many other the other TTL radio transmitters on the market. The new system has opened up many new doors for creativity and will simplify lighting for most photographers in general.

I think you will find the review quite informative so check it out and let me know what you think!

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Jun 21, 2012 18:22 |  #2

Awesome review... I have been debating to dump my flash system and getting three of the 600EX, but my main concern is how these perform on the pre-2012 cameras. Can you let me know what it can and can't do on the pre-2012 cameras?

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Jun 23, 2012 15:43 |  #3

bizzle23 wrote in post #14613413 (external link)
Awesome review... I have been debating to dump my flash system and getting three of the 600EX, but my main concern is how these perform on the pre-2012 cameras. Can you let me know what it can and can't do on the pre-2012 cameras?

Many thanks,
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Yeah I shot basically everything in my review with a 5D MK II so everything I was able to do, you can too. The only limitation I have found is when using multiple speedlites through radio, you are limited to one mode between the master and slaves.

For instance, if you had two 600EX-RT slaves set on manual and wanted the 600EX-RT master on the hot shoe to be used in TTL you would need a 2012 camera. When I shot the wedding reception at night I had the two salves on Manual (between 1/64 - 1/32 power) and would have preferred having the 600EX-RT on my hot shoe to be in TTL so that it would compensate for the distance between me and my subject but I had to dial it in the old fashioned way and reduce power on the hot shoe flash as I got closer or increase power as I moved further away. This was a minor nuisance and I might have blown out a couple or underexposed a few other shots here and there but I still ended up with plenty of great photos that they should be happy with.

Also I added a few updates with some of my favorite custom functions and then added some samples from a maternity shoot. It was nice to be able to use my 200 f/2 wide open during daylight with a flash in a softbox. Without HSS I would have been stuck with 1/200 sec and f/4-5.6 whereas with HSS I shot f/2.0 at 1/1250 sec with two 600EX-RT's in a softbox.


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Jun 24, 2012 01:15 |  #4

Awesome review! Very detailed, i havent finished reading it yet!

I'm pretty new to speedlights, and I apologise for my noobish question - but can somebody plz tell me why the 600 has c.fn 0-13 and 20-23 only? Where are the c.fn settings 14-19?!? Why is there a gap?

I held off on the 580 because I had a cheap flash that did me, but when I was ready for a 2nd flash to experiment with, the 600 was announced and I bought one - so glad I held off, and I am very keen on investing in this new system.

Will add a second 600 at some point, and eventually would love either a 3rd 600 and/or a ST-E3 to make it an awesome setup.


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Jun 24, 2012 04:22 |  #5

Does the master 600EX-RT flash let you control the power of slave 600EX-RT's from the master flash on top of your camera?.. Or do you have to walk over to slaves to adjust their power manually?


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Jun 24, 2012 13:06 |  #6

5W0L3 wrote in post #14623688 (external link)
Does the master 600EX-RT flash let you control the power of slave 600EX-RT's from the master flash on top of your camera?.. Or do you have to walk over to slaves to adjust their power manually?

Remote power control. As well as mode change. For example the remote can be changed from ETTL to manual via the Gr mode. And then the power can be set on the remote while keeping the master, on camera flash on ETTL.

Its also possible to keep everything in ETTL and use ratios or in Gr mode use FEC to adjust power up or down.


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Jun 24, 2012 15:57 |  #7

kobeson wrote in post #14623417 (external link)
Awesome review! Very detailed, i havent finished reading it yet!

I'm pretty new to speedlights, and I apologise for my noobish question - but can somebody plz tell me why the 600 has c.fn 0-13 and 20-23 only? Where are the c.fn settings 14-19?!? Why is there a gap?

I held off on the 580 because I had a cheap flash that did me, but when I was ready for a 2nd flash to experiment with, the 600 was announced and I bought one - so glad I held off, and I am very keen on investing in this new system.

Will add a second 600 at some point, and eventually would love either a 3rd 600 and/or a ST-E3 to make it an awesome setup.

Good question, I wonder where the other 6 custom functions could be. The ST-E3-RT is missing these functions as well. Maybe they are only accessible with a 2012 camera body such as the 5D3. Can anyone with a new body check on this??


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Jun 24, 2012 18:16 |  #8

xxzeppelin5xx wrote in post #14625629 (external link)
Good question, I wonder where the other 6 custom functions could be. The ST-E3-RT is missing these functions as well. Maybe they are only accessible with a 2012 camera body such as the 5D3. Can anyone with a new body check on this??

I have a 5D3, as mentioned in my sig.


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Jun 24, 2012 18:26 |  #9

awesome review. thanks. :)


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Jun 24, 2012 20:01 |  #10

I haven't read the review, just saw the title of the thread, and wanted to chime in that yes, you can use HSS with cameras such as the 5D2 (the 600EX-RT manual says you can't, but you definitely can!). Also, I was able to use two speedlights remotely, powered by a 3rd 600EX-RT on-camera, and was able to set different outputs for Flash-Slave A and Flash-Slave B using them all in Manual mode. ETTL worked just fine as well. I'm posting a sample image here from a wedding I shot last week.
It was too windy for umbrellas so there's a little too much shadow for my liking, but the wireless radio ability of the 600EX-RT units is amazing. I was so used to using my 580EXII units, paired with three Pocket Wizard TT5, and being really happy when everything worked 80% of the time. With the 600EX-RT units, they worked every time.


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Jun 25, 2012 10:04 |  #11

kobeson wrote in post #14623417 (external link)
I'm pretty new to speedlights, and I apologise for my noobish question - but can somebody plz tell me why the 600 has c.fn 0-13 and 20-23 only? Where are the c.fn settings 14-19?!? Why is there a gap?

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Jun 25, 2012 14:24 |  #12

Finally decided to move on from my current flash system. I just ordered three 600EX-RTs last night. Now can't wait to try to see if it's lives up to the hype.


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Jun 25, 2012 14:40 |  #13

I doubt this is possible or available yet. but is there a reciever to attach to a 580II EX so it will work RF with the 600EX?
Exp. If I were to buy a 600-ex-RT could I get something that would allow it to change the settings on the 580EX? remotely?


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Jun 25, 2012 15:00 |  #14

kobeson wrote in post #14623417 (external link)
Awesome review! Very detailed, i havent finished reading it yet!

I'm pretty new to speedlights, and I apologise for my noobish question - but can somebody plz tell me why the 600 has c.fn 0-13 and 20-23 only? Where are the c.fn settings 14-19?!? Why is there a gap?

I held off on the 580 because I had a cheap flash that did me, but when I was ready for a 2nd flash to experiment with, the 600 was announced and I bought one - so glad I held off, and I am very keen on investing in this new system.

Will add a second 600 at some point, and eventually would love either a 3rd 600 and/or a ST-E3 to make it an awesome setup.

This is just a guess but C.Fn 00-13 are functions that were available on previous Speedlite models and function for function the same as the 580EX II. C.Fn 20-23 are new to the EX Speedlites and found so far only on the 600EX-RT and a few, that apply, on the ST-E3-RT. Canon probably just wanted to set these new C.Fn's apart by placing them in the "20" range also leaving C.Fn 14-19 available for later expansion. Also new to the 600EX-RT and ST-E3-RT is Personal functions (P.Fn) which I really cannot figure why they just didn't make them part of the Custom functions menu. I have a few Personal/Custom functions I would like to see Canon add to this list and I really do not care what number they give them.


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Jun 29, 2012 05:56 |  #15

Great review, thanks for that! Definitely on my list to replace my current flash setup with a few 600's, they seem to be exactly what I've been waiting for as well.


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