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fogboundturtle
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Jun 25, 2012 10:31 |  #1

I am really tored apart of the last month. I am trying to decide which FF camera to upgrade too. I`ve been using an Canon T2i for the past 4 years and I`ve been doing more and more photography. So of course, the most logical upgrade for me is the Mark III but there is a few feature I like about the D800 that his holding me back :

1. FX -- DX crop mode
2. Higher dynamic range
3. 600$ cheaper

If I go with a Mark III, I would have to sell my Tamron 17-50mm non-vc/Canon 55-250mm and get something like a 24-70 F2.8. I am sure there is lots of users in my situation that are pondering the same decision.


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Jun 25, 2012 10:49 |  #2

fogboundturtle wrote in post #14628834 (external link)
I am really tored apart of the last month. I am trying to decide which FF camera to upgrade too. I`ve been using an Canon T2i for the past 4 years and I`ve been doing more and more photography. So of course, the most logical upgrade for me is the Mark III but there is a few feature I like about the D800 that his holding me back :

1. FX -- DX crop mode
2. Higher dynamic range
3. 600$ cheaper

If I go with a Mark III, I would have to sell my Tamron 17-50mm non-vc/Canon 55-250mm and get something like a 24-70 F2.8. I am sure there is lots of users in my situation that are pondering the same decision.

You have a few EF-S lenses so you're not held back on lenses because you can't use them anyways on the 5D III. What exactly is dynamic range to you? Does "higher" make or break your photos? I've underexposed shots and was still able to pull the shadows out on my 5D II and III. Exposé your shots better and dyn range will be a moot point. DX mode, isn't it basically an in-cam crop on the Nikon?

Other than the price, don't see the other two as something ground breaking. Your lenses other than the 300 will have to be sold anyways.


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Jun 25, 2012 12:03 |  #3

hi, with your current set up you are not really tied into any system, so im not sure that you should think that the 5d3 is a logical upgrade for you. Both cameras a great. I dont really know what the FX/DX crop mode is so i'll focus on the other differences:
- 36MP files: that is huge! you should look at whether your computer hardware is beefy enough to be able to manipulate 36MP files, otherwise you need to think about upgrading your computer too.
- $600 differece: well we are talking about expensive bodies and expensive lenses, so i dont think you should base your decision on this.
- DynamicRange: by all accounts the d800 is far superior to 5d3 in this regard and this WILL come in handy in almost any kind of outdoor shoting.
- Autofocus&buffer: looks like 5d3 is the superior one here.

Try to think about what kind of pictures you will take most often and then base your decision on that, you will be happy either way. I am a 7D owner and looking to upgrade to 5d3 when the time is right for me.




  
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Jun 25, 2012 12:10 |  #4

Saying cost doesn't matter is a bit silly. It really all comes down to what you want to shoot. Im you're shooting fast moving subjects, not so sure the D800 would be good for that. Using burst mode with 36MP files can get quite cumbersome. Im you do more landscape, or still subjects, why not D800? Both Canon and Nikon have an amazing lens line up. All comes down to what you want.

Sure the grass is always greener on the other side, and I have been really tempted to go to Nikon, but I love the lens selection Canon has as well as the ergonomics of the big bodies that I cant just switch over.


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Jun 25, 2012 12:11 |  #5
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Both D800 and 5D MKIII cameras are evolutionary and not revolutionary.
But the D800 has nicer features for less price.
Since you are coming from APS and will have to go with better FF lenes ...
you will never have such a sweet time to change systems as now.
Go with your heart on D800 and it will make sense to anyones brain.


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Jun 25, 2012 12:15 |  #6

What are you expecting to achieve with the "upgrade to full frame"? What is lacking with your current gear? What do you usually shoot and what have you been unable to shoot or been unhappy with the results, using your current camera and lenses?

The "FX/DX" mode on Nikon full frame cameras simply allow you to use the crop sensor "DX" Nikkors on the camera, in a limited way. The camera automatically switches to a "crop mode", lower resoultion using only part of the sensor to record the image.

Without knowing what you want to shoot and where you are finding limitations with your current gear, it's impossible to advise you very well.


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Jun 25, 2012 12:23 |  #7

They say always follow your heart.

Sounds like, if you went 5D3, you would always have that empty place in your heart for the D800.


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Jun 25, 2012 12:29 |  #8

I am way heavier invested in Canon hardware than you and the though has crossed my mind more than once. For you to move to FF means pretty much selling 1/2 your kit anyway as neither of the EF-S lenses will work so the decision is a bit easier. If I were starting from scratch today, I would go the Nikon route as they seem way more interested in delivering the features that I want. Canon is lagging by a couple of years technology wise. Also, right now the D800 from an image standpoint is a clear winner especially if you want/need to print big. The detail from shots I have seen is simply stunning matched only by some MF cameras.


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Jun 25, 2012 12:49 |  #9

fogboundturtle wrote in post #14628834 (external link)
I am really tored apart of the last month. I am trying to decide which FF camera to upgrade too. I`ve been using an Canon T2i for the past 4 years and I`ve been doing more and more photography. So of course, the most logical upgrade for me is the Mark III but there is a few feature I like about the D800 that his holding me back :

1. FX -- DX crop mode
2. Higher dynamic range
3. 600$ cheaper

If I go with a Mark III, I would have to sell my Tamron 17-50mm non-vc/Canon 55-250mm and get something like a 24-70 F2.8. I am sure there is lots of users in my situation that are pondering the same decision.

Looks like you'll hafta sell a bit of your Canon lenses anyway if you go full frame. Get the D800, you won't regret it. =p


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Jun 25, 2012 12:58 |  #10

OP hasn't told us what he likes to shoot however, the D800 is an excellent camera and for someone who'll need to replace alot of lenses anyway, it's quite fair to give it heavy consideration. It has industry leading DR, but it's not going to eliminate the need for the things landscape photogs have depended on for years, filters will still be a requirement for many challenging, wide DR shots. In addition, if the OP plans on shooting things that move, even at the rated fps, the D800 is very much limited by it's buffer which will fill and slow the camera down well before the 5DIII. Both are great cameras, but switching means switching an entire system, body, lenses, flashes and other accessories make sure to look at the big picture.


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Jun 25, 2012 13:35 |  #11

I only speak for myself, but I have yet to lose a photo because of the terrible dynamic range on my 5D3... In fact, I find it damn good. I don't get the huge following for dynamic range honestly with any current camera. I know some may need it, yes, but most can live without the D800 DR. In fact, EVERYBODY did until it came out and were perfectly happy/able to take great photos.

As far as your upgrade, I would really spend your available money on some lenses and forget spending $3000+ on a body right now. Lenses will give you a much bigger IQ boost then a body right now. If you really want FF, maybe get a 5D or used 5D2 for cheap to see how it goes.


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Jun 25, 2012 14:04 |  #12

This really does come down to what you shoot. I think Ivertalon's suggestion of buying used is a good one both the 5D2 and D700 can be had in very good condition for considerably less than the 5D3/D800. Again depending on what you shoot you may be limiting yourself by going for a high priced body at the expense of lens options. Remember bodies come and go but good glass is forever :)


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Jun 25, 2012 14:21 |  #13

I went from Canon 5DMkII to D800 believe me i never regret. then again you have to know what you shoot and which camera is feels good in your hand.




  
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Jun 25, 2012 14:27 |  #14

i say buy what you want ....




  
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Jun 25, 2012 14:32 |  #15

follow your heart!!!


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